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Old 06-20-2020, 10:56 PM
 
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https://www.teenvogue.com/story/who-is-karl-marx

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Public high school teacher Mark Brunt teaches excerpts from The Communist Manifesto alongside curriculum about the industrial revolution in his English class. He uses The Jungle by Upton Sinclair — a text published in 1906 that revealved the exploitative workplace conditions of the meat industry in Chicago and other industrialized cities many immigrants were subject to in the late 19th century — to understand what it was like to work in a factory a little more than a hundred years ago.
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“I do a little role-playing with [my class],” Brunt tells Teen Vogue. “[I tell them,] I’m the boss, you’re my workers, and you want to try to take me down. I have the money. I own the factory. I control the police. I control the military. I control the government. What do you guys have?”

His students usually blink at him, he says, totally clueless. He insists they actually have something huge, that he, as the boss, will never have: “It’s always just one student, whose hand shoots up and goes, ‘We outnumber you!’” Brunt says.
Why the hell is this kind of evil trash even allowed to be taught in public schools? We have the whole of the 20th century to tell us your nation accepts communism it's just going to turn into complete dog crap in very short order.

And these same people complain about capitalism? The only system that has ever been shown to work and actually improve people's lives? The fact that there are people out there that believe this trash is bad enough, but to teach it in public schools to very impressionable kids? How do trash like this even get to become teachers? Is there NO quality control at all?

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Old 06-21-2020, 12:48 AM
 
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Whooppeeeee flippin' scat.

We took the Communist Manifesto, read "Mein Kampf" and how the American Constitution was made back in highschool in the 1960's. As well as what the Magna Carta said, and why it was important. And then discussed them all in the context of the British North American Act.

Some of us turned out be conservative, some center, and some liberal. The important part, is we got educated. What do you know about any of them?
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Old 06-21-2020, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I read The Jungle in 1981 in Junior High.

What’s the big deal? Did you not read literature?
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Old 06-21-2020, 12:51 AM
 
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I think there is nothing wrong with reading either book, it is more about the message that the teacher gives to the students about the books and how he/she frame it. Students can be easily molded/manipulated.
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Old 06-21-2020, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Idaho
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So you want to control what our kids are or are not allowed to learn? You must be one of those big government types.
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Old 06-21-2020, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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No problem with reading it in school, but the fact that many teachers actually see Marxism as a valid “philosophy” is the scary part. That article was pretty infuriating.
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Old 06-21-2020, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Why the f'n hell is this kind of evil trash even allowed to be taught in public schools?
Sounds like a good teacher to me, using multiple sources for reading, role playing, using relatable examples, and making connections to current events. Good for him.

My eighth grade class read The Jungle. We also read Sherlock Holmes stories, To Kill A Mockingbird, and Lord of the Flies. Such evil trash ...
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Old 06-21-2020, 09:31 AM
 
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Why the f'n hell is this kind of evil trash even allowed to be taught in public schools? We have the whole of the 20th century to tell us your nation accepts communism it's just going to turn into complete dog crap in very short order.

And these same people complain about capitalism? The only system that has ever been shown to work and actually improve people's lives? The fact that there are people out there that believe this trash is bad enough, but to teach it in public schools to very impressionable kids? How do trash like this even get to become teachers? Is there NO quality control at all?
Personally, if it were my school, I would take the school to court and have the teacher fired.
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Old 06-21-2020, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The Communist Manifesto is one of the most politically influential texts ever written, whatever you think of the ideology of socialism.

Refusing to allow studies on it in school would be akin to the cancel culture the right hates the radical left for.
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Old 06-21-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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How can one avoid getting sucked in by a philosophy if they can't recognize it?

There were people with opinions like the op in our congregation. DH and I took the high school kids to visit all the religious organizations in our community. The kids went to services and then had a couple hours with each clergy to discuss their views. Some in our church went bat**** as though we had blasphemed. The kids learned a lot.
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