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I can't help but feel that "holidays" like this actually do more to divide us than unite.
I'm not a slave I don't know anyone that has ever been a slave but what we all are is Americans.
What is next? a holiday for transgendered non binary straight but crooked "theys" ?
Oh well if it makes people happy BUT does anyone think it is odd that so many are willing to erase our History until that history is something they approve of and then it is celebrated?
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Maybe I should just stop celebrating Passover because I'm not a slave and don't know anyone that has been a slave.
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So you're comparing a religious holiday to a local Texas holiday about when word of the end of the Civil war reached Galveston?
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Passover is all about our freedom from the Egyptians. There are many parallels between Passover and Juneteenth. If one is unnecessary or childish (both terms used in this thread), why not the other?
It would be strange to me to try to understand why people are discounting a holiday celebrating the true ending of slavery in the United States, but c'mon - we all know why people are minimizing it.
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Again, you are comparing something considered a sacred religious holiday to celebrating the day that people in Galveston, Texas heard that the Civil war was over.
I'm not saying Juneteenth is unnecessary or childish, it was a holiday I grew up with, it's just that it is a minor holiday.....it always has been. People are pretending otherwise right now but that doesn't change history.
Try to earn "woke" points elsewhere.
Bobby,
Your interpretation of the meaning of Juneteenth, "celebrating the day that people in Galveston heard that the Civil War was over" is missing the point, and thus completely diminishes its significance to the 250,000 enslaved people of Texas who were robbed of their freedom. Texceptionalism at its finest.
People are not pretending that Juneteenth is a major holiday. They are acknowledging its significance.
I have to admit I never heard of the day until the news started reporting about Trumps rally scheduled on the same day.
I live in Cincinnati and known about it for decades. There's been organized and unorganized festivals every year since I was a a kid. I played at one of them. For a few years there some big name groups played, but most years it was has-been groups or local bands.
It's different now. Now you have to pay $1 Million just to get someone to show up for 5 minutes, but back in the day, most bands would jump at a chance to play.
Midnight Star played a couple of years. I played with Roger and Larry Troutman at one, or it might have been the Montgomery County Fair. I don't think they were officially "Zapp" yet.
A lot of other cities had Juneteenth festivals. Dayton always did.
I live in Cincinnati and known about it for decades. There's been organized and unorganized festivals every year since I was a a kid. I played at one of them. For a few years there some big name groups played, but most years it was has-been groups or local bands.
It's different now. Now you have to pay $1 Million just to get someone to show up for 5 minutes, but back in the day, most bands would jump at a chance to play.
Midnight Star played a couple of years. I played with Roger and Larry Troutman at one, or it might have been the Montgomery County Fair. I don't think they were officially "Zapp" yet.
A lot of other cities had Juneteenth festivals. Dayton always did.
Where I grew up hardly any African Americans lived in Orange County, California. We have a large Hispanic population. Cinco de Mayo was a big holiday for Hispanics in the area where I grew up even then the schools I went to was almost 100% white. In the 1970's Southern California near the beach cities were considered middle class nothing like today ultra wealthy mostly replaced where I grew up.
Where I grew up hardly any African Americans lived in Orange County, California. We have a large Hispanic population. Cinco de Mayo was a big holiday for Hispanics in the area where I grew up even then the schools I went to was almost 100% white. In the 1970's Southern California near the beach cities were considered middle class nothing like today ultra wealthy mostly replaced where I grew up.
It's my understanding that Cinco de Mayo is a holiday of very little significance to Mexicans--not sure to which Hispanics you are referring.
I have to admit I never heard of the day until the news started reporting about Trumps rally scheduled on the same day. I don't remember this being taught in schools I went to school in Southern California 1974-1987.
"June 19, 1865, Gen. Gordon Granger arrived with Union soldiers in Galveston, Texas, and announced to enslaved Africans Americans that the Civil War had ended and they were free — more than two years after President Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation."
I grew up in DC and have always been exposed to African-American culture. I vaguely knew of Juneteenth and noticed small celebrations over the years. But it was never particularly noteworthy and there was never much passion behind it.
For the record, it is certainly something worth celebrating and I do not mind greater emphasis on it. However, this current euphoria over it strikes me as a bit contrived.
I grew up in DC and have always been exposed to African-American culture. I vaguely knew of Juneteenth and noticed small celebrations over the years. But it was never particularly noteworthy and there was never much passion behind it.
For the record, it is certainly something worth celebrating and I do not mind greater emphasis on it. However, this current euphoria over it strikes me as a bit contrived.
It’s a very strong black tradition in the Texas/Louisiana/Oklahoma etc area. Black people in other parts of the country tend not to make as big a deal of it unless their family is from that area of the south.
That said any city with a sizable black population typically has some kind of outdoor picnic type Juneteenth event, even if it’s not as big as in Texas. DC tends to have tons of black families whose relatives migrated from the Carolinas, Viirginia, Georgia and the like so it was likely not a big enough deal there for you to be hyper aware of it.
Never heard of it before the dems started in on it.
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