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Old 05-03-2008, 10:32 PM
 
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I know, I know: The intolerance of the tolerant. One of the many contradictions that drive intelligent people away...
Let me challenge your statement. I came from San Francisco, which as everyone knows is quite tolerant. Nonetheless, I have certain standards and expect them to be upheld.

That includes backing up statements in a logical and impersonal manner.
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Old 05-04-2008, 05:54 AM
 
Location: The Lakes Region
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Here’s one you may have missed….BUSH cancels the Kyoto Protocol, claiming there’s no such thing as global warming — PUTTING THE ENTIRE PLANET IN JEPARDY!

You are sooooo gone....There is no proof of that....Stop lying........

Carrie
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Old 05-04-2008, 06:39 AM
 
Location: In NASCAR World
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Maybe I can help...



ORB - Opinion Business Research - Newsroom (http://www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=78 - broken link)

How's that NASCAR, btw?

That's a POLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is not fact to it whatsoever. Not only is it a poll, but then the left wing wacko site creates a number out of the clear blue sky. Come on...........you can't actually believe that.

It is completely laughable. But then again, as a moderate myself, I see how right wing extremists stick to their guns and are very stubborn and left wing extremists are full of hate for everything and have very clouded judgement.

I am against the war, always have been, but I am not some left wing angry hater. I just realize that we should never try to occupy a country full of people that are extremists, that have no regard for life. They do not fight in a conventional manor. The will kill their own women and children by strapping bombs to their chest and blowing up other innocent people. In an area like that, we are much better served to do strategic strikes in key areas.

Go Barack Obama!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-04-2008, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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That's a POLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is not fact to it whatsoever. Not only is it a poll, but then the left wing wacko site creates a number out of the clear blue sky. Come on...........you can't actually believe that.

It is completely laughable. But then again, as a moderate myself, I see how right wing extremists stick to their guns and are very stubborn and left wing extremists are full of hate for everything and have very clouded judgement.

I am against the war, always have been, but I am not some left wing angry hater. I just realize that we should never try to occupy a country full of people that are extremists, that have no regard for life. They do not fight in a conventional manor. The will kill their own women and children by strapping bombs to their chest and blowing up other innocent people. In an area like that, we are much better served to do strategic strikes in key areas.

Go Barack Obama!!!!!!!!!
'cause from the reviews:

The Conservative Party

“The team at ORB provided me as General Election Campaign Director with timely and rapidly reported analysed research findings – both qualitative and quantitative – to ensure that our campaign was always in touch with the concerns of voters. They were flexible and creative and provided a good, personal service. Timely and accurate information is critical for campaign decision making and ORB delivered it on a daily basis.”
Lynton Crosby , 2005 General Election Campaign Director, The Conservative Party

That left winged conservative party wacko!

'cause up is down and blue is red, dont'cha know?
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:57 AM
 
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I think you're wrong. He's spread the dollar so thin, that in order to make the welfare net continue to work, we're going to have be taxed beyond belief. The American people are going to choose to end entitlements instead.

Further, Clinton's economics would of put the government in position to start buying income generating assets (fascism) by about 2012. Bush made sure that isn't going to be happening again anytime soon.
Good point! Devastate the economy to "make" American's cut the dependence on entitlements. Like American's dependence on foreign oil, no good can come to dependence on anything except yourself. Clinton did start the road to communism (although it was a very sneaky one), Bush made tons of mistakes that cannot simply be forgotten.... Patriot Act, etc. etc. I think there are easier ways to take fascism off the roadmap than by destroying the free market and putting up other government departments..
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:51 AM
 
Location: At my computador
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Good point! Devastate the economy to "make" American's cut the dependence on entitlements. Like American's dependence on foreign oil, no good can come to dependence on anything except yourself. Clinton did start the road to communism (although it was a very sneaky one), Bush made tons of mistakes that cannot simply be forgotten.... Patriot Act, etc. etc. I think there are easier ways to take fascism off the roadmap than by destroying the free market and putting up other government departments..
Easier, but not possible. Everyone who's over 40 claims "I paid into it." They want to ride us into retirement and they'll not let SS be eliminated.

They're the ones who are going to pay for enslaving us. It'll be hard on the young, but nothing like it should be for the older ones who are responsible for it.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:14 AM
 
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i think bushs greatest accomplishment was being able to lie so much and get away with it.


YouTube - Bush Administration Caught Contradicting Itself 6 Times
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:42 AM
 
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You are sooooo gone....There is no proof of that....Stop lying........

Carrie
So you think that canceling the Kyoto Protcol was a wise move? Do you disagree with the vast majority of scientists who say that greenhouse gases are harming the planet?
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:53 PM
 
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That's a POLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is not fact to it whatsoever. Not only is it a poll, but then the left wing wacko site creates a number out of the clear blue sky. Come on...........you can't actually believe that.

It is completely laughable. But then again, as a moderate myself, I see how right wing extremists stick to their guns and are very stubborn and left wing extremists are full of hate for everything and have very clouded judgement.

I am against the war, always have been, but I am not some left wing angry hater. I just realize that we should never try to occupy a country full of people that are extremists, that have no regard for life. They do not fight in a conventional manor. The will kill their own women and children by strapping bombs to their chest and blowing up other innocent people. In an area like that, we are much better served to do strategic strikes in key areas.

Go Barack Obama!!!!!!!!!
No, a poll is where you ask people for their opinions on an issue in the sense that you are using the word. One must have a sample size of at least 100 and randomly chosen people in order to put any credence into it.

This "poll" asked Iraqis how many people they had lost in their family. Clearly NOT a subjective question.

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QHow many members of your household, if any, have died as a result of the conflict in Iraq since 2003 (ie as a result of violence rather than a natural death such as old age)? Please note that I mean those who were actually living under your roof.

None 78%
One 16%
Two 5%
Three 1%
Four or more 0.002%

Given that from the 2005 census there are a total of 4,050,597 households this data suggests a total of 1,220,580 deaths since the invasion in 2003. Calculating the affect from the margin of error we believe that the range is a minimum of 733,158 to a maximum of 1,446,063
This is an actual study, if you will, as to what the real numbers might be. The US does not track Iraqi deaths, so it is left to statisticians to come up with the answers.
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Old 05-04-2008, 03:14 PM
 
Location: In NASCAR World
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i think bushs greatest accomplishment was being able to lie so much and get away with it.


YouTube - Bush Administration Caught Contradicting Itself 6 Times

Hey, Hillary is continuing the effort. How about the doosies she is pumping out this year.

Oh, I gotta duck now.....sniper fire.......HA HA HA HA HA HA
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