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Old 07-12-2020, 08:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Hopeful for Life View Post
Only in America. These God-loving crazies are making it worse for everyone. I KNEW that this would happen simply because those ppl will never conform even if it is for the public good.
The "public good" is a socialist concept.
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Old 07-12-2020, 09:21 PM
 
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The biggest problem is that all of the Democrats are screaming "lockdown" and "masks" while the Republicans are respecting civil rights.

I still suspect Democrats of using this to steal the election. Mail-in ballots are very susceptible to fraud.

When we had mail-in primary ballots, my ballot did not arrive until just before the mailing deadline. I had less than one day to make my selections. The ballot was not like the published one.

Our Democrat county heath department head ordered a longer lockdown than the state and later ordered masks in all businesses. The problem is that our county has among the lowest numbers in the state (only 28 deaths). He apparently enjoys bossing others around because he suddenly has power.

There are some idiots saying we need a mask any time we are not at home. One idiot wants mask use at home. And I see people wasting their masks by wearing them while driving their cars, jogging, or walking dogs away from others.

The aperture size in the mask is not critical (as some are saying) because the virus is spread in fluids, and the fluids are what stick to the mask. If the virus ever dries totally out, it disrupts.

Likewise, ultraviolet C and ions in the air disrupt the virus. Once disrupted, it can't reassemble itself. These should be used in air handlers in businesses.

My reasons for not wearing a mask when not required to:

- The mask keeps the body cooling system from working right
- The O2 levels drop due to CO2 rebreathing
- Many masks contain materials I am allergic to (as do many hand sanitizers)
- Most of them do not fit (removing the protection)
- Mask straps getting caught in hair
- My wife has claustrophobia

Note that masks with valves in them do not protect.
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Old 07-12-2020, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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How about we compare the cases in my state vs yours. I wear a mask for you. Do the same for me please. I wear a mask because I don't want to give this to my family and friends. I could be walking around with this virus without knowing. Why are some of you so selfish.

Make up your mind. Do you wear it for me or do you wear it for your family and friends?

I do not need you to wear a mask for me so stop the virtue signaling. I don't need you to protect me.

Yes, I am indeed selfish. I don't feel compelled to justify why.
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Old 07-12-2020, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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The biggest problem is that all of the Democrats are screaming "lockdown" and "masks" while the Republicans are respecting civil rights.

I still suspect Democrats of using this to steal the election. Mail-in ballots are very susceptible to fraud.

When we had mail-in primary ballots, my ballot did not arrive until just before the mailing deadline. I had less than one day to make my selections. The ballot was not like the published one.

Our Democrat county heath department head ordered a longer lockdown than the state and later ordered masks in all businesses. The problem is that our county has among the lowest numbers in the state (only 28 deaths). He apparently enjoys bossing others around because he suddenly has power.

There are some idiots saying we need a mask any time we are not at home. One idiot wants mask use at home. And I see people wasting their masks by wearing them while driving their cars, jogging, or walking dogs away from others.

The aperture size in the mask is not critical (as some are saying) because the virus is spread in fluids, and the fluids are what stick to the mask. If the virus ever dries totally out, it disrupts.

Likewise, ultraviolet C and ions in the air disrupt the virus. Once disrupted, it can't reassemble itself. These should be used in air handlers in businesses.

My reasons for not wearing a mask when not required to:

- The mask keeps the body cooling system from working right
- The O2 levels drop due to CO2 rebreathing
- Many masks contain materials I am allergic to (as do many hand sanitizers)
- Most of them do not fit (removing the protection)
- Mask straps getting caught in hair
- My wife has claustrophobia

Note that masks with valves in them do not protect.

Yes, yes, and yes.
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Old 07-12-2020, 09:55 PM
 
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Make up your mind. Do you wear it for me or do you wear it for your family and friends?

I do not need you to wear a mask for me so stop the virtue signaling. I don't need you to protect me.

Yes, I am indeed selfish. I don't feel compelled to justify why.
Well to me that's the same thing lol How about I say I wear it for everyone then. I don't think I've even met a selfish person in my life. Maybe I have just never gravitated towards people like that. Everyone I know would give the shirt off their back for someone.
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Old 07-12-2020, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I respectfully disagree. It takes freedom of choice from you. That is why around half of the country against mask and half for it. We see such freedom differently.
So you should have the right to get the virus more easily by not wearing a mask, while hoping if you come down with it that it won't be severe or have a long recovery?
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Old 07-12-2020, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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So, we can assume the freeDUMBERS won't be seeking medical attention, hospitalization, remdesevir, dexamethasone, or tocilizumab - and - heaven forbid - ventilation or an ECMO machine. And hopefully will not have any residual long-lasting life-altering disability requiring never-ending medical care and expense and even possibly a heart, lung or kidney transplant. And, of course, they will not apply for SSDI should they be disabled by this virus.

Yes, indeedy. God love 'em. They are true patriots.

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Old 07-12-2020, 10:21 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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So you should have the right to get the virus more easily by not wearing a mask, while hoping if you come down with it that it won't be severe or have a long recovery?
I do not believe the virus is as serious as it being made to be but yes i should be more free to catch this virus.

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So, we can assume the freeDUMBERS won't be seeking medical attention, hospitalization, remdesevir, dexamathasone, or tocilizumab - and - heaven forbid - ventilation or an ECMO machine. And hopefully will not have any residual long-lasting life-altering disability requiring never-ending medical care and expense and even possibly a heart, lung or kidney transplant. And, of course, they will not apply for SSDI should they be disabled by this virus.

Yes, indeedy. God love 'em. They are true patriots.

I have the right to seek medical help like anyone else.
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Old 07-12-2020, 10:24 PM
 
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Many Americans still refuse to adopt the metric system too, as if it violated their freedom or superiority.
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Old 07-12-2020, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I do not believe the virus is as serious as it being made to be but yes i should be more free to catch this virus.

I have the right to seek medical help like anyone else.
Let's hope you never find out the hard way how truly devastating this virus can be. Anyone who's done any serious reading on this virus over the past few months, worked as a first responder, had friends or family die knows otherwise.

Imo, it takes a special kind of ignorance not to do everything in one's power to protect oneself against this:
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More research data coming out.....covi19 affecting the brain

https://theconversation.com/how-coro...e-brain-141100
Six months into the COVID-19 pandemic, we’re still learning what the disease can do. There are now detailed reports of brain illness emerging in people with relatively mild lung illness, in those who are critically ill and also in those in recovery.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...fect-the-brain
Patients with COVID-19 are experiencing an array of effects on the brain, ranging in severity from confusion to loss of smell and taste to life-threatening strokes. Younger patients in their 30s and 40s are suffering possibly life-changing neurological issues due to strokes. Although researchers don’t have answers yet as to why the brain may be harmed, they have several theories.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/25/...complications/
A new survey reveals a wide range of serious psychiatric and neurological complications tied to Covid-19 — including stroke, psychosis, and a dementia-like syndrome. The study underscores how aggressively the coronavirus can attack beyond the lungs, and the risk the disease can pose to younger adults.
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