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Ultmately this has nothing to do with a flag; it has everything to do with bowing down to a ragin, lunatic mob. It's about principal.
You ever heard about what Natives did to eachother before white man showed up? Inhumane in the extreme, but you're fine with their flags, I bet?
It was their land, their ways.
Why has 'MuriKa need to put it's nose into everyone's business in the world, and is the worst warmonger out there. How many foreign citizens had China killed in the last 60 years? I don't like their government, but they have not been the world's terrorist country the USA has been.
WTF did Grenada, Haiti, Vietnam, Iraq, or Panama ever seriously do to the USA? Where there bad actors in some of those place? You bet! But none of that excuses USA invasions, wars and killings of their citizens. There are lots of bad actors in many countries, so any excuses the USA used are just excuses.
'MuriKa should stick to cleaning up its own yard first. Quit sticking their nose in places where they are not asked to be.
And that includes stop imposing things like a Trump rally on unceded First Nations land. By what right was Trump there? Or is it another Treaty that the USA will only abide to if it is in their own interest?
Gee, why didn't the Democrats who ran Mississippi into the 1990s/early 2000s ever do this? It's because the Democrats are the party of racism and slavery. There was no "switch" of racists from the Democrats to the GOP, contrary to what the revisionist history liars will tell you.
I agree with getting a new flag.
The Democratic governor of Mississippi put it to a public referendum in 2001. It failed primarily due to strong support of white republicans against changing the flag.
The Democratic governor of Mississippi put it to a public referendum in 2001. It failed primarily due to strong support of white republicans against changing the flag.
The Democrats didn’t need a referendum to get rid of it. Mississippi Republicans didn’t.
"In fact, the flag’s meaning has changed significantly over time, and the contemporary conflict about the flag should be seen more as a dispute about the future than the past."
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It was their land, their ways.
Why has 'MuriKa need to put it's nose into everyone's business in the world, and is the worst warmonger out there. How many foreign citizens had China killed in the last 60 years? I don't like their government, but they have not been the world's terrorist country the USA has been.
WTF did Grenada, Haiti, Vietnam, Iraq, or Panama ever seriously do to the USA? Where there bad actors in some of those place? You bet! But none of that excuses USA invasions, wars and killings of their citizens. There are lots of bad actors in many countries, so any excuses the USA used are just excuses.
'MuriKa should stick to cleaning up its own yard first. Quit sticking their nose in places where they are not asked to be.
And that includes stop imposing things like a Trump rally on unceded First Nations land. By what right was Trump there? Or is it another Treaty that the USA will only abide to if it is in their own interest?
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It was their land, their ways.
And yet we sit in judgement today of a culture that had been in existence about 2,500 years before it rolled up on the shores of this continent. It was their way ... what does judgement of them accomplish? Does it by some miracle change the past? Can you get them to recognize they are a flawed culture? If you could get on a time machine and travel back in time and tell them they will be judged, not by God, but by future generations, do you think then we can change their ways?
Since fewer than 1% held more than 100 slaves and the accumulation of wealth today is held at the top 1% of this country ... change in tradition had been taking place already, accept for a few who were not ready to give up that social status of wealth.
Like to that of getting people to give up their gas guzzlers so as to promote a healthier environment ... change takes time. The government will have to declare the sale of such vehicles illegal, in order to get people to comply.
And yes we will be judged not by God, but by future generations, as if we care ...
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Why has 'MuriKa need to put it's nose into everyone's business in the world, and is the worst warmonger out there. How many foreign citizens had China killed in the last 60 years? I don't like their government, but they have not been the world's terrorist country the USA has been.
It has to do with the spreading of democracy, freedom and peace ---
"On September 19, 215 years ago, Washington published his farewell address, marking one the first peaceful transfers of power in American history and cementing the country’s status as a stable, democratic state."
Liken to that that was established in our country, a peaceful transfer of power ...
"The experience in Iraq is also certain to have implications for many other areas of U.S. foreign policy that aren’t necessarily confined to the Middle East. One of them involves the oft-discussed realm of "democracy promotion." American war aims in Iraq explicitly included toppling Saddam’s one-party dictatorship and installing a new, more accountable form of government that would live in peace with its own people as well as its neighbors."
China does not want to promote a people's right to choose their government, and if given the chance they would rule other countries, in much the same humanitarian manner as seen in their country today.
The u.s. doesn't want to rule the world --- but the markets? That's a whole other ballgame. Why Promoting Democracy is Smart and Right
"A freer and more democratic world helps create a virtuous circle of improved security, stronger economic growth, and durable alliances—all of which better serve the long-term interests of the United States."
What does this have to do with an adoption of a Mississippi flag? It doesn't --- unless the change in tradition came from the will of the government, rather than its people and in doing so, serves their interests as a whole, rather than in part.
So far, no one has been able to come up with a logical, practical reason why the Confederate emblem should even be part of Mississippi's flag.
Perhaps there is no reason. Perhaps the people in the future, will correct the sins of the past if they deem it appropriate to do so, in forms of their own unique symbols and signs. One can only hope they will look toward something, rather than back at nothing though, instead.
If the design of the new flag has 'in God we trust' on it, they will end up having to do it again ... States should elect not to have a flag and move on to something else worth spending money on, like a solution for the homeless.
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