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Old 07-01-2020, 09:20 AM
 
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That's ironic to say, considering the hysteria that BLM is generating over a very small number of questionable incidents regarding police.

You would think the Tulsa massacre was happening daily considering how vocal and enraged people are.

You have people telling their kids to walk around afraid of cops because they are looking to kill them at a moments notice.

That is simply statistically not the case in any way shape or form, and that is REAL hysteria.

This mentality is doing tremendous, tremendous damage to the psyche of kids. It's just outright stupid.

You teach your kids to not fight with police, not admit to guilt, and argue their case with a lawyer if they ever get arrested. That's it. You do that, and you don't commit any crimes, your chances of having negative interactions with the police that end in your death are close to the chance of being struck by lighting. And anecdotes don't change that. The people killed unjustly should get justice with more police accountability. I'm fully on board with that.

But this crap that's being sold in the media about how dangerous police are to black kids is the true madness going on, and it has to stop, but it's only accelerating.
What you are saying is absolutely blown out of proportion. So much of this is caused by Right Wing media hysteria or over reaction. Too many people are bowing down to the Hard Right mob who if they have it their way, the state of Black Lives would be back in the 50's

Way too many lies. Way too many half truths from the Right.
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Old 07-01-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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BLM protesters invade neighborhood, then open fire on car trying to drive past
Hard to say.

It does not look like a protest.

No way of telling if anyone is BLM.

No way of determine if the car was trying to drive past, or looking for trouble (buy drugs etc).

No way of knowing if they 'invaded' a neighborhood, or if that was their own neighborhood.

No way of knowing if the sounds were gunshots (no one reacted to it)


Its easy to post a video and build a story around it, but is everyone supposed to just believe it?
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Old 07-01-2020, 09:30 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Agreed that there is no context but it doesn't appear to be just a typical drug-related or gang-related shooting. What is most striking is how many people are around and they don't scatter in the aftermath of the gunshots - they just keep walking around and milling about like multiple gunshots didn't just go off. This isn't normal.
That's what gets me, too! If nothing else, you could get taken out by friendly fire in some of these incidents. Crowds, violence and pandemonium, guns firing off, and people are just, like you said, milling about.
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Old 07-01-2020, 09:34 AM
 
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NIMBY, no care.
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Old 07-01-2020, 09:39 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I dont think so. Appears to be traffic blocking "protesters" ( in that vein they are typical hood thugs) The neighborhood they're in doesnt look like the hood.

This invading different areas and pulling crap like this is going to trigger reprisals. A group tried to organize a looting and rioting event in the small town I'm from a couple weeks ago.

15 van loads showed up and were met by the locals where they had posted they were going to stage. They left without incident.
Similar quietly happened here. 2 local groups of pro BLM did their thing.

Locals were quietly in the background watching. Locals dont care about what you protest about so it all went on peaceably. Mostly they were watching for agitators and when none showed up, people demonstrated, locals shrugged and everyone went home.
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Old 07-01-2020, 09:44 AM
 
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What you are saying is absolutely blown out of proportion. So much of this is caused by Right Wing media hysteria or over reaction. Too many people are bowing down to the Hard Right mob who if they have it their way, the state of Black Lives would be back in the 50's

Way too many lies. Way too many half truths from the Right.
The state of black lives is going down hill rapidly due to crime. The murder toll in NY is going up into the stratosphere. It only supports my argument: a ton of energy is being expended over a handful of ugly incidents that fulfill a narrative, when the actual issues which lead to the extinguishing of far more black lives, which BLM completely ignores, are on the rise and will only get worse as policing decreases.

Those aren't "lies from the hard right", they are facts.

The lie is that systemic racism is leading to the violent deaths of black people at the hands of cops on a routine basis. That is not even a half truth, it's a straight lie.
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Old 07-01-2020, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Once again a "outrage-inducing" thread.

The hysteria towards the so call evils of BLM never ends.
The vileness, violence and viciousness of the BLM "movement" needs to be exposed, people need to be made aware so they can defend themselves. People need to understand how bad this racial supremacist organization actually is before they claim to "support" it. BLM-the Klan with a Tan. But BLM has done more damage in a few years than the KKK did in a century.
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Old 07-01-2020, 10:00 AM
 
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Funny how it never occurs to you how the whole thing was likely a set up sprung by the Hard Right or White Supremists. Anything to make BLM and the protesters look bad fits into their dictionary.
The hard right or white "supremists" put a gun in a black guys hand to shoot at cars?

Are you serious?
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Old 07-01-2020, 10:01 AM
 
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Happened in Utah as well...

Police arrest 2 after man shot during Provo protest

Provo police have confirmed that one person was shot during a protest Monday night near the police department.

The victim, a 60-year-old Provo resident, remained hospitalized Tuesday but was “stable,” according to police. The man was not part of the protest or counterprotest that had been going on, but was just driving in the area, said Provo Police Sgt. Nisha King.

Tuesday night, King confirmed two people had been arrested in connection with the shooting. Jesse Taggert, 33, of Salt Lake City, was arrested for investigation of attempted aggravated murder, King said. He also faces allegations of aggravated assault causing serious bodily injury, rioting, threatening use of a weapon in a fight, criminal mischief and firing a weapon near a highway.

Samantha Darling, 27, of Ogden, was arrested for investigation of obstruction of justice and rioting.


The victim was driving a white SUV on University Avenue and was attempting to turn onto Center Street when a group of protestors began “crowding around the vehicle. A male protester ran to the SUV on the passenger side, pointed a handgun at (the) driver and shot one round through the window,” according to a synopsis of the incident by Provo Deputy Police Chief John Geyerman.

The driver, who was struck by a bullet, “hit the gas trying to leave the situation,” Geyerman said.


After the shooting, video shows the gunman then “conceals the firearm and continues to protest,” Geyerman said. “This same protester later approached another vehicle at 500 North and University Avenue, striking and breaking the window with the handgun.”
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Old 07-01-2020, 10:02 AM
 
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The state of black lives is going down hill rapidly due to crime. The murder toll in NY is going up into the stratosphere. It only supports my argument: a ton of energy is being expended over a handful of ugly incidents that fulfill a narrative, when the actual issues which lead to the extinguishing of far more black lives, which BLM completely ignores, are on the rise and will only get worse as policing decreases.

Those aren't "lies from the hard right", they are facts.

The lie is that systemic racism is leading to the violent deaths of black people at the hands of cops on a routine basis. That is not even a half truth, it's a straight lie.
Actually the Lie is that there's no such thing as systemic racism against the lives of black people. A Lie that's straight out of the book of David Duke. Paid by and sold to the Gullible.
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