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Old 07-01-2020, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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LMAO.

That's awesome that it was a study by the very university that fired him.

Just when you thought it couldn't get any more bizarre.

As always, abolish public education as well as the State and carry on.
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:24 PM
 
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leftists will continue to ignore the 1984 world they've created for us all.

in-depth WSJ article with hsu's comments: https://infoproc.blogspot.com/2020/0...msu-moral.html

the study he cited: https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/n...ice-shootings/
Science is good, unless its not good for the right people, and then its bad. Apparently.

The truth is that the Left isn't science oriented. They are supremacy oriented. They will use and discard whatever it takes to dominate.
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:28 PM
 
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LMAO.

That's awesome that it was a study by the very university that fired him.

Just when you thought it couldn't get any more bizarre.

As always, abolish public education as well as the State and carry on.
You first.

There are plenty of islands that you can inhabit, free of any State. What is stopping you?

The problem doesn't seem to be the State, but competing tribal interests within the context of multiculturalism. Competition and suppression that would get worse under the abolition of the State. It seems that eliminating tribal proximity is much more rational. "Individuals" can take their chances cozying up to a tribe or defending themselves against them. As is their wish in a cop free, State free World.
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:32 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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This is a state university right? Why isn't the state pulling funding and addressing a government actor violating free speech?
good question. let's ask stretchin' gretchen.
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Old 07-07-2020, 01:28 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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seems like a good place for this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
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Old 07-07-2020, 01:50 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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From that link:

The researchers involved in the study, “Officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings,” asked MSUToday editors to remove the news story detailing the findings after they issued a retraction request to Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, or PNAS, the academic journal that published the research. The researchers asked for the retraction due to misinterpretation of the findings that resulted from language used in the paper.


Also, why is a physicist commenting on socio-political topics, exactly? What's the context of all this?

The scientists who conducted the research sent this letter to PNAS asking for retraction:

We recently requested PNAS retract our article, “Officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings” (Johnson et al., 2019). This statement serves as explanation for this decision.

1 The Short Answer
We were careless when describing the inferences that could be made from our data. This led to the misuse
of our article to support the position that the probability of being shot by police did not differ between Black and White Americans (MacDonald, 2019). To be clear, our work does not speak to this issue and should not be used to support such statements. We accordingly issued a correction to rectify this statement (Johnson & Cesario, 2020). Although our data and statistical approach were valid to estimate the question we actually tested (the race of civilians fatally shot by police), given continued misuse of the article (e.g., MacDonald, 2020) we felt the right decision was to retract the article rather than publish further corrections. We take full responsibility for not being careful enough with the inferences made in our original article, as this directly
led to the misunderstanding of our research
....

https://5315b3c7-4fd2-421c-be7a-cbaa...4532edf02a.pdf

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Old 07-07-2020, 02:02 PM
 
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The researchers involved in the study, “Officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings,” asked MSUToday editors to remove the news story detailing the findings after they issued a retraction request to Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, or PNAS, the academic journal that published the research. The researchers asked for the retraction due to misinterpretation of the findings that resulted from language used in the paper.


Also, why is a physicist commenting on socio-political topics, exactly? What's the context of all this?
Why does Bill Nye, for that matter? Or an entertainer? Or a sportsballer?
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:05 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Why does Bill Nye, for that matter? Or an entertainer? Or a sportsballer?
Well, public educators are obviously and reasonably held to different standards than entertainers.

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Old 07-07-2020, 02:05 PM
 
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The researchers involved in the study, “Officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings,” asked MSUToday editors to remove the news story detailing the findings after they issued a retraction request to Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, or PNAS, the academic journal that published the research. The researchers asked for the retraction due to misinterpretation of the findings that resulted from language used in the paper.
yeah, they probably started getting death threats over their paper, and curled up into the usual fetal position.

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Also, why is a physicist commenting on socio-political topics, exactly? What's the context of all this?
why not? silly man, he presumed he could speak freely about any topic he chose. that'll teach him!

he's also a geneticist btw.

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n 2017, Hsu and five collaborators published a paper in Genetics on the use of lasso to construct genomic predictors of complex human traits (height, bone density, cognitive ability), using data from the UK Biobank. Their genotype height predictor estimated adult height within an accuracy of roughly one inch.[27]

In 2018 his research group used the method on the same dataset to build genomic predictors for complex diseases such as Hypothyroidism, (Resistive) Hypertension, Type 1 and 2 Diabetes, Breast Cancer, Prostate Cancer, Testicular Cancer, Gallstones, Glaucoma, Gout, Atrial Fibrillation, High Cholesterol, Asthma, Basal Cell Carcinoma, Malignant Melanoma, and Heart Attack. Outliers in risk score (e.g., 99th percentile) were shown, in out-of-sample validation tests, to have up to ten times the risk of ordinary individuals for the specific conditions.[28][29] The predictors use as input information dozens to thousands of common SNPs measured for each individual.[30]
sounds like MSU kicked out a top researcher. for what, exactly?
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:10 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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yeah, they probably started getting death threats over their paper, and curled up into the usual fetal position.



why not? silly man, he presumed he could speak freely about any topic he chose. that'll teach him!

he's also a geneticist btw.



sounds like MSU kicked out a top researcher. for what, exactly?
When you are a public educator, saying things publicly that could reasonably be viewed as racist (or sexist or misogynistic or homophobic or....) will almost certainly get you in hot water with your bosses. This isn't new.
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