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CHOP WAS the trash, and they have been taken out, your Boo Hoos nothwithstanding.
I wonder if the buildings in the "autonomous zone" are so wrecked inside they'll have to be demolished. A cost not borne by insurance since the damage was a result of the typically not covered "civil unrest".
I wonder if the buildings in the "autonomous zone" are so wrecked inside they'll have to be demolished. A cost not borne by insurance since the damage was a result of the typically not covered "civil unrest".
Good point.
People's right to protest ends at the exact point it infringes upon someone else's rights.
Yeah, sheesh, that alternative of violence, lawlessness, anarchy, and punishing whitey for something that happened over a hundred and fifty years ago is going to be hard to live without. I think mass suicide is the only way to protest the rejection of "the summer of love." That'll show those sons of $#@*&%s who want to live their lives without the Woke Nation destroying everything they've worked for all their lives.
Ultimately, it wasn't allowed in Waco or in Idaho, so why should it be allowed in Seattle? Especially considering the Waco and Idaho groups owned their land and really weren't doing much of anything to other people's property. And they certainly weren't pillaging, extorting, bullying, plundering, burning, raping, and murdering.
They were nothing more than social outcasts and losers in life. Well balanced educated productive members of society with strong family bonds and friends that have an understanding of how healthy communities work and thrive would have nothing to with any of this dumbass nonsense.
Wish I could use stronger language.
Capitol Hill previous to CHOP had no special bonds, nor were they reliant on one another.
Funding came from the municipal government, their jobs were in none residential zones, and the 'businesses' distributed goods made in offshore factories and large farms.
There was no coexistence between economic interdependence nor social familiarity between the residents.
All Capitol Hill was and is (besides CHOP) is a gentrifying residential zone.
Capitol Hill previous to CHOP had no special bonds, nor were they reliant on one another.
Funding came from the municipal government, their jobs were in none residential zones, and the 'businesses' distributed goods made in offshore factories and large farms.
There was no coexistence between economic interdependence nor social familiarity between the residents.
All Capitol Hill was and is (besides CHOP) is a gentrifying residential zone.
I.e. a neighborhood. Nothing like a bunch of idiots taking over and trashing a neighborhood to turn sympathetic liberals into law and order right wingers.
I.e. a neighborhood. Nothing like a bunch of idiots taking over and trashing a neighborhood to turn sympathetic liberals into law and order right wingers.
Zoning neighborhoods into disparate commercial and residential areas while gentrifying the demographic base to fit the needs of a wider municipal government is one of the leading causes of all our societal ills.
It has resounding affect beyond just its immediate presence.
If CHOP slowed that down or reversed that trend, it is fundamentally a good thing.
I am devastated. I know many here are gleeful as the municipal government runs over the barricades and destroy all the work of the organizers, but I want everyone to stop and think for a second.
What does this say for the future of our country?
The supposed 'normal' neighborhoods are zoned as residential or commercial, and each segment is dependent on the wider metropolitan area for labor and basic subsistence.
Most of the early interviews in CHOP show yuppies and over paid immigrants complaining about the loss of big capital and zoning laws as producers and residents melded together to provide water and fresh food to all citizens.
These immigrants and yuppies have no connection to the land and are used to fill population centers at random to keep a community dispersed and working/buying from the same big financial speculators and their companies.
While CHOP was pooling together labor to clean up the trash, provide fresh water, and grow communal gardens, the commuter economy that relies on people being dependent and devoid of control over their own land worked to actively destroy any chance CHOP had at a future.
The organizers made mistakes and there was some crime (relatively little) but it was a free and independent form of society that if given time rather than opposed would have developed and had better capacity to shelter, feed, and educate its residents.
Most of these 'small business' owners people mourn about are just glorified distributors for big capital. Their goods are often mass produced by outside companies invested in by global capital, and their foods are sourced from industrial farms once again funded by financial speculators.
These are not the producer guilds of 15th century Japan, the German Empire, or modern day China.
The latter examples were built by a connection of guilds which incubated small business owners to produce craft goods, foods, and arts. These same methods made industrialization easier, and created a producer society.
These 'small-business' don't make a producer society, they cultivate a consumer economy where locals are reliant on foriegn capital and government zoning, and more than anything staffed by overpaid yuppies and immigrants who don't care about the community but rather about making money for themselves.
In the past neighbors pooled together capital and labor because what benefited one benefited all. CHOP wasn't a fringe movement that belonged in the outskirts of a valley or abandoned field, but a free form of organization that could reform mainstream society and how capital is distributed. Rather than people being isolated and stressed it would have helped people to come together and feel as if they were part of a shared culture.
But now that CHOP is destroyed I am afraid that alternative is as well, and most Americans will scorn it rather than morn what CHOP could have been, not just for itself but for the whole country.
They wanted to know what Socialism was like.
They learned the hard way.
Zoning neighborhoods into disparate commercial and residential areas while gentrifying the demographic base to fit the needs of a wider municipal government is one of the leading causes of all our societal ills.
It has resounding affect beyond just its immediate presence.
If CHOP slowed that down or reversed that trend, it is fundamentally a good thing.
I’m all for seeing a group like CHOP attempting to build a utopia and showing us the error of our ways. However, if the only way they can do so is to steal their property from someone else they’ve already failed and are no better than the “conquering” society that they are attempting to change. If someone wants to give them an area with all of the modern trappings that they supposedly need to start their better society, that’s one thing. Running the people who already occupy the area out in order to take it over, though, violates the non aggression principle and immediately refutes any claim they have to being better than anyone else.
The idea of communal living isn’t new, or unique, or even very well thought out. It’s been tried over and over again, and was even the norm at one point in human history. The problems with it are varying and pervasive, but in general such societies are incapable of sustaining themselves in the long term. That’s sort of the reason that humanity in general moved away from such arrangements.
Capitol Hill previous to CHOP had no special bonds, nor were they reliant on one another.
Funding came from the municipal government, their jobs were in none residential zones, and the 'businesses' distributed goods made in offshore factories and large farms.
There was no coexistence between economic interdependence nor social familiarity between the residents.
All Capitol Hill was and is (besides CHOP) is a gentrifying residential zone.
None of the nonsense you posted has any relevance. You post garbage and people need to see it.
None of the nonsense you posted has any relevance. You post garbage and people need to see it.
The socialism test was a
*PASS
*FAIL
You decide
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