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Old 07-03-2020, 12:32 AM
 
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Love those Trumpsters. Whatever their dear leader does is great. I guess next they’ll tell us to take sips of Clorox to make your insides free of this virus.
If they can torture wishful conclusions out of a study with heavy limitations, I’m sure they can justify sipping Chlorox somehow.
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Old 07-03-2020, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...te/5365090002/


Here's the paper in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases:
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S...534-8/fulltext

Hasn't gotten wide media attention. I wonder why...
Which is why the US is spending a fortune buying remdesivir, a drug you can't use with hydroxychloroquine and a drug which is yet to be proven in clinical trials.

Hydroxychloroquine-Remdesivir Combo Dangerous: FDA - WebMD

Remdesivir was developed by using US tax payers money but that doesn't stop Gilead charging the US tax payer a fortune for it, indeed it's far cheaper to buy outside of the US, or was until the US bought all the global stock.

So Gilead is charging around $2,400 for a dose of remdesivir, with the raw materials costing less than $10 a dose, and most of the research being funded by the US tax payer, whilst the drug is far cheaper outside of the US. Ever feel the American people are getting ripped off by these companies and the US Government is complicit in this.

Coronavirus: US buys nearly all of Gilead's Covid-19 drug remdesivir -BBC News

At the same time other countries are stockpiling the cheap steroid Dexamethasone which has been proven to reduce deaths from the virus in clinical trials.

Coronavirus: Dexamethasone proves first life-saving drug - BBC News

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Old 07-03-2020, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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It is refreshing to see some accurate, unbiased data coming out about hydroxychloroquine. I've always said that I'd accept wherever the results led us (and that I fully supported the use of the drug on an emergency basis when it had shown some early clinical effectiveness), but those suffering from TDS went into overdrive and fought against the drug only because it was being touted by President Trump

You know things were bad when they were pushing false science--used to stop early hydroxychloroquine trials initially--in the form of "studies" that ultimately had to be retracted because they were BS and didn't actually follow the scientific method
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:54 AM
 
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Turkey claims success treating COVID-19 with broad use of drug touted by Trump
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hydroxy...atment-turkey/

Look - Turkey has been using this drug for months and they have a very low death rate from covid at 2.6% That's half of what many other countries have. It looks like the politicization of this drug driven by our radical left wing anti-Trump media could have ended up killing 60,000 people.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
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Old 07-03-2020, 10:00 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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It is refreshing to see some accurate, unbiased data coming out about hydroxychloroquine. I've always said that I'd accept wherever the results led us (and that I fully supported the use of the drug on an emergency basis when it had shown some early clinical effectiveness), but those suffering from TDS went into overdrive and fought against the drug only because it was being touted by President Trump

You know things were bad when they were pushing false science--used to stop early hydroxychloroquine trials initially--in the form of "studies" that ultimately had to be retracted because they were BS and didn't actually follow the scientific method
You're saying it's accurate and unbiased because it supports your biased position? That's the type of thinking that science is intended to negate.
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Old 07-03-2020, 10:03 AM
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Turkey claims success treating COVID-19 with broad use of drug touted by Trump
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hydroxy...atment-turkey/

Look - Turkey has been using this drug for months and they have a very low death rate from covid at 2.6% That's half of what many other countries have. It looks like the politicization of this drug driven by our radical left wing anti-Trump media could have ended up killing 60,000 people.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
The bizarre politicization of the drug was very reckless. I dont know if it was big pharma or tds drivin.
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Old 07-03-2020, 12:45 PM
 
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CNN: The least trusted name in news. "It's the opposite of what we say."
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Old 07-03-2020, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Trumps wins, again, Lol

Liberals still insist dying is safer than taking the drug, Lol
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Old 07-03-2020, 03:55 PM
 
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CNN: The least trusted name in news. "It's the opposite of what we say."
They have a report the opposite policy about anything to do with Trump.

The Hill just reported it.

Study ties hydroxychloroquine use to lower COVID-19 death rate
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...-19-death-rate
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:16 PM
 
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Turkey claims success treating COVID-19 with broad use of drug touted by Trump
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hydroxy...atment-turkey/

Look - Turkey has been using this drug for months and they have a very low death rate from covid at 2.6% That's half of what many other countries have. It looks like the politicization of this drug driven by our radical left wing anti-Trump media could have ended up killing 60,000 people.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
I've been beating the drum on HCQ for awhile. Totally irresponsible to demonize the drug.
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