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Wrong SAT. And that info is specifically spelled out in my post. The SAT scores compared were from the Stanford Achievement Test, available for grades K through 12, not the Scholastic Aptitude Test, used for college admissions purposes:
"...The contrast was stark: schools that had "severely declining test scores" had "moved determinedly toward heterogeneous grouping" (that is, mixed students of differing ability levels in the same classes), while the "schools who have maintained good SAT [Stanford Achievement Test, for grades K-12] scores" tended "to prefer homogeneous grouping [ability/skill-level grouping, aka tracking]."
Thanks
No coffee yet so I won't say where my head was this morning.
And back in the olden days there was no 6 weeks prep for the Stanford test. The teacher just said take out a #2 pencil and passed out the test.
I follow PISA more closely. We are on a decline compared to other countries.
That does not bode well for the future as eventually we will end up depending on other countries for technological advances.
Yes, we are. And in a way, we already do depend on other countries for R&D talent. There are a significant number of immigrants working on leading edge projects in STEM in the US. They come to the US either for college or after they've been educated abroad and have the advantage of a much better K-12 (or similar) education than US states provide their students.
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...Despite more people getting college educated?
Do you believe the conspiracy of the government "dumbing down" the american population with injection of chemicals in the water supply or is it something else?
Because more people getting college educated!
Colleges and universities are no longer legitimately anything but cesspools of leftist indoctrination, ruined by affirmative action and forced to give "credentials" to anyone who shows up, like the Harvard ninny who got her butt fired for threatening to murder those who don't agree with her politically.
I follow PISA more closely. We are on a decline compared to other countries.
That does not bode well for the future as eventually we will end up depending on other countries for technological advances.
That’s actually what’s missing - the real brilliant people at the far top of the scale. We have far too few of them.
Do you believe the conspiracy of the government "dumbing down" the american population with injection of chemicals in the water supply or is it something else?
Drugs. Statins seriously makes people stupid, angry, and forgetful.
It’s definitely from the democrats having complete control of our education system kindergarten through college for over two decades now.
You can see how we plummeted internationally the more democrats got control.
That’s actually what’s missing - the real brilliant people at the far top of the scale. We have far too few of them.
That is it, exactly! Our schools haven't been developing talent. They've been leveling everyone off to the lowest common denominator, which is somewhere below average: the level at which the majority can achieve. Why has that happened? Because the goal of equal educational outcomes (albeit, low outcomes) was perceived as "social justice" and "fair" to all.
Colleges and universities are no longer legitimately anything but cesspools of leftist indoctrination, ruined by affirmative action and forced to give "credentials" to anyone who shows up, like the Harvard ninny who got her butt fired for threatening to murder those who don't agree with her politically.
Same thing with all the “woke” companies in liberal cities, run by liberal CEOs. In my last job, a non-profit where liberalism seems to be worse, the majority of those at the director level and up were either black or gay - and many of them barely competent. The support staff was majority white. In my own department, there were three directors, all of them gay. There had been a fourth, but they renamed positions, and his (a straight while male) was downgraded to a non-director position, and he was the most capable of all them. He ended up leaving for a new job a few months later, and they had trouble filling it at the non-director position. So they ended up bringing it back to the director level, and who did they hire? A black female.
(I ended up leaving there myself within months of that. No future for straight whites.)
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Americans are being dumbed down because of their addiction to their smartphones and social media. So many people automatically turn to their phone's GPS and calculator, instead of using their brain to think it out. And they turn to Google to answer all of their questions, so no need to memorize any information anymore. Spellcheck is another way to not have to use their brains any longer.
And since humans are such social creatures, they are addicted to their FB pages and busy getting and giving "likes" all day and night long... and making new "friends".
Scary times. Scary future.
An example: When we moved out of the city in favor of a nice small town, we had a friend who regularly made the 70 mile drive to see us. It's a drive that I would have had committed to memory after one or two repetitions. Our friend was still using her GPS to get here after 10 or 12 trips.
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