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Old 07-04-2020, 08:58 AM
 
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Last week it was fading away, and this week its real and we just have to get used to it.
How far we have fallen from "just 15, and soon to be zero".
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Old 07-04-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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Only because states in the Sunbelt are surging. The good news is Arizona seemingly plateaued at 5,000 cases a day. The question I have is if these tests in the past week are more positive or we actually flattened. I hope we did. I don't want to see crisis standards of care, no one does...
According to Johns Hopkins, Arizona’s positivity rate is very high (25%) and still rising. I don’t know the details of the testing, but it doesn’t look like a lot of good news.

BTW, Arizona’s positive rate is the highest in the country (expect for Puerto Rico).
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Old 07-04-2020, 10:25 AM
 
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Guess he's realizing Covid doesn't do politics.
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Old 07-04-2020, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Well now we do thanks to irresponsible people like our President holding large indoor gatherings without masks or social distancing.

Also, there is a difference between living with the problem in a responsible manner or letting it get out of control to the point where hospitals are overflowing and unnecessary deaths are occurring.
Oh, oh, Tulsa where Trump was has regain the lead in most cases in the state over Oklahoma City 2,709 to 2690.
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Old 07-04-2020, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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According to Johns Hopkins, Arizona’s positivity rate is very high (25%) and still rising. I don’t know the details of the testing, but it doesn’t look like a lot of good news.

BTW, Arizona’s positive rate is the highest in the country (expect for Puerto Rico).
It certainly is possible. I wonder if it is lower due to less tests or what.
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Old 07-04-2020, 11:11 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Well Duh... POTUS is now Captain Obvious...

The medical community has long been providing the data that we need to "Learn to live with it". The issue here is the lack of leadership to accomplish "Learning to live with it". Social distancing and mask wearing was just two measures of "Learning to live with it" but he has previously taken an anti-mask stance and turned it political.

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Old 07-04-2020, 11:18 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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President Bone-spurs is in full "retreat mode" (as opposed to re-tweet mode). He'll be ready for the golf course just as soon as he takes his hour-long tweet & dump and his two hour hairspray comb-over session.
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Old 07-04-2020, 11:19 AM
 
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Well, you cant close down America again, just because we will see covid again shortly.


You do have to live with it.. You can live in fear that you will get it.. most likely you will get it.


Then your body will develop antibodies and you will overcome it just like the flu.
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Old 07-04-2020, 11:22 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Well, you cant close down America again, just because we will see covid again shortly.


You do have to live with it.. You can live in fear that you will get it.. most likely you will get it.


Then your body will develop antibodies and you will overcome it just like the flu.

Or ...you'll just be dead and won't have to think about it anymore.
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Old 07-04-2020, 11:27 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Well, you cant close down America again, just because we will see covid again shortly.


You do have to live with it.. You can live in fear that you will get it.. most likely you will get it.


Then your body will develop antibodies and you will overcome it just like the flu.
There are a couple assumptions you are making.

1) That you are either closed or open... nothing in between. - Other countries (as well as NJ, NY, CT) have shown that there are ways to mitigate risk.

2) Simply opening businesses will not spark economic progress. - Open doors don't drive the economy, consumer confidence does.

We've long knew that had to learn with it... other countries already knew this... that's why they have nationalized plans to mitigate the risk to boost consumer confidence to patron businesses.

We are a country that refuses to look at those examples and learn how to live with it because of our own damn attitudes and politics.

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