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Old 07-06-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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In 1850 in South Carolina alone, there were 180 BLACK SLAVE MASTERS, who had slaves as forced servants:
https://historyengine.richmond.edu/episodes/view/6699

If that doesn't destroy the Critical Race theory myth of group identity I don't know what does. Not only did blacks in America own blacks, but Africans were the ones who mainly enslaved people from other tribes and sold them to the Europeans for "export"

The Native Americans themselves owned thousands of black slaves.



This "white privilige" Marxist nonsense does not hold water. All humans are capable of evil, it's not a white thing. We need to work as one country united against evil. This Critical Race Theory is pure evil
I thought we were all suppose to understand by now, that the emotion driven narrative of black lives mattering, only applies when whitey can be made to feel guilty enough to pay in some fashion.
Thus blacks killing blacks, or even blacks enslaving blacks matters not. Only if it is a white person, does it matter, even when the accusation is false.

Frankly all you need these days (post Obama) is just to have white people within proximity of a black person to claim racism.
Black people can call fellow black people ******s with no issue.
But let a white person just look at, or accidentally brush up against a black person, and they are offended, scream racism, and demand an apology.

Some cops have been brutal bastards and equally distribute brutality among any and all suspects.
If it is a white cop being brutal with white suspect, and no big deal.
But let that same white cop be brutal with a black suspect, and all of a sudden it is racism, and we need to capitulate to the mob, to appease them and shed our collective white guilt and so called privilege.

If some kooky white people want to wash the feet of random black people, go right ahead. But don't expect me or society in general to be afflicted with your mental problems.
Heck I laughed when this one black commentator said "white people, get hold of yourself, and stay the heck away from my feet".


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Old 07-06-2020, 01:10 PM
 
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I posted a more detailed post several day ago in another thread.



The 1st "slaves" in America were indentured servants, many of whom were "freed'"after paying their fees.

One of the BIGGEST slave owners in America was a BLACK man.

"William Ellison was African American, born into slavery in April of 1790 with the name April Ellison to a slave mother and white slavemaster father, Mr. William Ellison. As a young man he was apprenticed to a cotton gin maker rather than working in the fields and allowed to keep a portion of the wages he earned for his master and father, money that he later used to purchase his freedom. At the same time, he changed his name to William Ellison, after his father, to fit in with higher society. After purchasing his family, he moved to Sumter County, South Carolina and hired out other free African Americans to work in his cotton gin shop. While working, he discovered a common problem among freed slaves in the South. The expense of wages left him with a profit that would never compete with what slaveowners were earning. Wanting to move up in society, he purchased his first slaves in 1820. By 1850, Ellison had 37 slaves while his sons owned another 16. He was one of about 180 black slave masters in South Carolina at the time, most of whom were former slaves themselves."

"With nearly 9,000 free blacks in South Carolina"

"blacks owning blacks continued all the way up to the Civil War, with many African American slave owners, including Ellison, contributing and supporting the Confederate side. Stories like Ellison’s and other black slave owners showed the economic power of slavery in Southern America in the nineteenth century. The easiest way to achieve financial and social success was to own slaves and the allure of southern wealth was enough that it convinced a few of slavery’s former victims to switch to the other side."

https://historyengine.richmond.edu/episodes/view/6699

Something the racist NEVER want to talk about!



"He was one of about 180 black slave masters in South Carolina at the time, most of whom were former slaves themselves."

"One of the less well known aspects of the history of slavery is how many and how often non-whites owned and traded slaves in early America. Free black slave holders could be found at one time or another “in each of the thirteen original states and later in every state that countenanced slavery,” historian R. Halliburton Jr. observed. That black people bought and sold other black people raises “vexing questions” for 21st-century Americans like African-American writer Henry Louis Gates Jr., who writes that it betrays class divisions that have always existed within the black community. For others, it’s an excuse to deflect the shared blame for the institution of slavery in America away from white people."

https://historyengine.richmond.edu/episodes/view/6699

"There were approximately 319,599 free blacks in the United States in 1830. Approximately 13.7 per cent of the total black population was free. A significant number of these free blacks were the owners of slaves. The census of 1830 lists 3,775 free Negroes who owned a total of 12,760 slaves."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/facts-about-slavery/
You didn’t read your post. He wasn’t Black but Mulatto...son of a white slavemaster. The free “blacks” were actually mixed race people, perhaps even more white than anything.
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Old 07-06-2020, 01:14 PM
 
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With nearly 9,000 free blacks in South Carolina, that 180 made up a tiny percentage who were willing to do anything to compete with the upper class white slaveowners at the time


180 black men tried to compete with the upper class white slaveowners. Not exactly an overwhelming figure...but you use that to justify slave ownership in the USA if you need to.
Exactly and not only that, most of them were mixed race. The white slave owners were usually their fathers. They wanted to maintain that middle position between white and black.

People want to one-drop tule them for their purposes but the truth is that for most, their mixed-race heritage is what permitted them to have slaves.
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Old 07-06-2020, 01:15 PM
 
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The Union didn't fight the confederacy to end slavery. Slavery was abolished for political reasons, not moral reasons. And literally everyone in the Union hated black people and wanted them removed from the country. The only reason they weren't was because there was no where to send them. Abraham Lincoln begged black people to leave.
THey couldn't just drop them off back in Africa? Its a big continent and there wasn't much resistance there. If they could have looked into the future today and see the mess and instability this has caused with no end in sight they would be speechless.
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Old 07-06-2020, 01:30 PM
 
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With nearly 9,000 free blacks in South Carolina, that 180 made up a tiny percentage who were willing to do anything to compete with the upper class white slaveowners at the time


180 black men tried to compete with the upper class white slaveowners. Not exactly an overwhelming figure...but you use that to justify slave ownership in the USA if you need to.
Justify slave ownership? Nobody is trying to do that. They are stating a fact that black people had slaves as well. It's a pretty hard point to miss. But it's one that you really would like to go away. LOL.
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Old 07-06-2020, 01:50 PM
 
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Justify slave ownership? Nobody is trying to do that. They are stating a fact that black people had slaves as well. It's a pretty hard point to miss. But it's one that you really would like to go away. LOL.
Mixed people mainly. Why the insistence on the one-drop rule?
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Old 07-06-2020, 01:52 PM
 
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You didn’t read your post. He wasn’t Black but Mulatto...son of a white slavemaster. The free “blacks” were actually mixed race people, perhaps even more white than anything.
So in your view, black people today who have white ancestors are "Mulatto" and are part of the "systematic racism" oppressing the true pure breed black people?

Am I getting that right?
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Old 07-06-2020, 02:43 PM
 
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You didn’t read your post. He wasn’t Black but Mulatto...son of a white slavemaster. The free “blacks” were actually mixed race people, perhaps even more white than anything.
WT?

I know you were speaking to another poster, but considering the one drop rule, don't give us this half black person equals a white one.

Yet this is the game they even play in modern times where someone who is half white like Obama gets to be called black.
But a 1/4 black, 1/4 brown person named George Zimmerman is suddenly a white guy.

Or the 4 "white cops" who are charged with killing Mr. Floyd. In reality one was yellow, and the other 1/2 yellow, 1/2 black.
The media knows this, but still sticks to the false narrative they helped to create.

Lastly, don't kid yourself to think only with some white blood in them, did that cause them to be slave owners.
If that is the case, then all the blood transfusions black people have had (during a medical need) will suddenly turn them evil, racist, and privileged.

Many a African (100% black) has owned and still owns fellow blacks in Africa.
Heck they still hack each other up with machetes.
Don't go to Rwanda and tell a Hutu that you are a Tutsi, as you being black will not save you from the savagery.
The evil of slavery and inhumanity to fellow men knows no color barrier.


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Old 07-06-2020, 02:52 PM
 
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Whites not only kept those Africans enslaved after bringing them to America, they continued to keep them enslaved for generations. That's after whites had already slaughtered and waged war on the indigenous people of America.
And those people are all dead now so what has that to do with those of us alive today?
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Old 07-06-2020, 02:53 PM
 
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WT?

I know you were speaking to another poster, but considering the one drop rule, don't give us this half black person equals a white one.

Yet this is the game they even play in modern times where someone who is half white like Obama gets to be called black.
Exactly. And the white side of Obama's family owned slaves, so he's stained as a slaveowner POTUS, as well.
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