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Old 07-06-2020, 09:56 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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The police are likely inflating the number of crimes, to make themselves look good.
When it doesn't fit the narrative, it's always a conspiracy.
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Old 07-06-2020, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Giuliani transformed the city, but give credit where it is due. Bloomberg continued what Giuliani started. I didn't like Bloomberg's nannying, but at the end of the day, not being able to buy a Big Gulp is a small price to pay for an otherwise, well run city. (especially when you never bought a Big Gulp in your life, anyway)

After 20 years of good government, New Yorkers forgot what it was like under a leader that lets the inmates run the asylum, and they elected de Blasio. As the city declines, hopefully they smarten up and put themselves back on the right path. My fear is that this younger generation likes the chaos. I love NYC, in good times, and bad, but I love it more, in good times.
Literally:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nypd-shoo...mates-released

They let so many prisoners out of Rikers Island, the muder rate has skyrocketed; according to the police chief.

How stupid is letting prisoners out of prison early, and let them roam free in the general population? That is pure evil, and sick.

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Old 07-06-2020, 10:05 AM
 
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Bill de Blasio - Get rid of this Scumbag.

Cuomo - Another Scumbag.

How can anyone - in their right mind defend them.
If you are a brain dead Liberal you do...
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Old 07-06-2020, 10:10 AM
 
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Used to love going to NY.....stayed near Central Park and enjoyed the Broadway shows, concerts ar Lincoln Center, great window shopping on Fifth Avenue, taking the subway down to Lower Manhattan to tour Ellis Island and The Statue of Liberty, crossing over to the seaport on the east side, and just taking in the energy.

But that was before a leftist mayor took over, enabling criminals. It’s not even the same city any more.
Tourism was way DOWN, Giuliani cleaned it up and tourism returned then dems took back control......!
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Old 07-06-2020, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Crimes been going down in nyc for years there’s an uptick lately but it’s a small sample and can be attributed to many things but of course cops will politicize this..
Like letting prisoners out of Rikers Island prison early, and letting them roam free in the general population. How dumb is that? The police chief says that is a contributing cause to the 200% murder increase....duh!...ya think?
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Old 07-06-2020, 10:17 AM
 
Location: NYC
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You know you're on the extreme radical end of the right wing when you call the Dailymail a liberal news outlet, LOL
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Old 07-06-2020, 10:18 AM
 
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...lent-us-cities
Overall, Chicago’s crime declined by 10% after the pandemic struck, a trend that is playing out globally. Fewer people are being killed and fewer robberies are taking place.

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Overall crime has gone down but. NOT murders.

"Chicago saw a homicide total lower than 500 in 2019, the first time under that threshold since 2015. The spike in violent crime that has plagued Chicago since 2016 has even more gravity when viewed in comparison with six decades of homicides in Chicago. Since 1957, the city has had homicide totals of 700, 27 of 63 years, and has been lower than 500 a third of the time, 20 of 62 years."

40,000 homicides: Retracing 63 years of murder in Chicago ...

www.chicagotribune.com › news › breaking › ct-histor...

Here is a closer look at the numbers and some of the influences behind them. Homicides in Chicago, by year. Select a metric: Total Rate.
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Old 07-06-2020, 10:19 AM
 
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The police are likely inflating the number of crimes, to make themselves look good.
Not a logical conclusion to come to since the NYPD commissioner reports directly to the mayor's office and de Blasio would have the commissioner's head on a platter if the NYPD were falsely inflating the numbers to make him look bad.
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Old 07-06-2020, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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While DeBlasio's actions especially the massive budget cut has been shocking. You guys are conveniently forgetting that under DeBlasio, in 2017, 2018, 2019 New York City saw 3 years straight of murder rates so slow the last time they had been seen was 1950s NYC, so in nearly 70 years- 2018 had the lowest murder rate of all time, 2017 had the 2nd lowest murder rate of all time, and 2019 was like the 4th or 5th lowest of all time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/27/n...rime-2017.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yor...18-11546559793

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/u...ime-stats.html

The murder rate increase has been significant (albeit very comparable to other U.S cities so not indicative of anything DeBlasio himself was doing, the department hasn't felt the billion dollar cut yet).

But 176 is small potatoes when 2017, 2018 and 2019 saw new record or near record lows 3 years in a row.
Even if calculate the current murder rate and expand it towards a year (things are definitely looking significantly higher, but you can't extrapolate on murders that haven't happened)
you get a murder rte of 4.19 per 100,000 people. For context this rate is lower than every major city in the country except maybe San Diego (I'm talking MSA) (which I say Maybe because it's just over 3,000,000 which is what I consider the limit for a major city or not).


No matter what anyone say those numbers aren't high enough to consider NYC a minor hellhole or even a moderate hellhole. The U.S is currently at 5 per 100,000. Most of the South and the states most posters live is currently as high or higher than NYC, are you afraid to step outside? No then statistically NYC isn't quite that dangerous yet. Now the rate can continue to skyrocket but criminals would need to work hard to get NYC to the level of it being as dangerous as America let alone other cities.

NYC would have to have 250 murders since July 1st just to become the same danger level as the USA.

Even with this said DeBlasio's decision to cut the police during a crime wave is ridiculous and the good people of NYC should put a guy who takes crime more seriously in charge next election.
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Old 07-06-2020, 12:28 PM
 
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De Blasio - is blaming this on covid - The increase in crime.

Is Murder - a Symptom of Covid now???
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