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Old 07-06-2020, 09:05 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Oh boy, if you have a Master's Degree, then you better hold on to it tight.
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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RLL and MFM (IDE) still use the terminology but have long been obsoleted. In SCSI they refer to initiator/target but I've long still heard the terms master/slave still applied albeit incorrectly... due to the fact that SCSI spec allows for multiple initiators (masters) Still used in a lot of places in computer sciences... source code control still uses the terms.

You are talking about SAN(fibre channel and ISCSI) architecture there, completely different than the IDE bus(which now uses mostsly SATA) on a local system. SCSI was fairly well used in higher end servers back in the day for local storage (like the Adaptec 2940 controller) but these days its kind of exclusively a SAN thing.


At some point i bet these terms will come under attack too.
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:08 AM
 
Location: equator
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'peanut gallery' is now verboten, says cnn.
What! I think that term is funny. WTH is wrong with that?

What about master/slave switches and slave cylinders? This is gonna be far reaching.

That said, language changes with time as society changes and that's OK.

Anyone using the terms "broad" or "dame" for women these days?
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:09 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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It was not a functional noose and pics show that it was there for months before Bubba was even assigned the garage.
No, it wasn't a sliding noose, but the knot was tied that way intentionally. Yes, I'm aware that it was reportedly tied that way since last fall. That doesn't have anything to do with it not being your average piece of rope tied in a loop.

Further, Bubba never reported it - his crew chief did after another member of the crew notified him of it. Were a bunch of the garages' pull-downs tied this way? Lots of loops, only one tied up with the multiple coils above the loop, evidently.

So, while it doesn't seem that it was aimed at Bubba specifically, that pull-down is intentionally tied to look like a noose.
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Is there something in the article that is factually incorrect? Got a problem with history and knowledge?

The article is explaining that there exist terms in our regular common vocabulary that have its roots in racism... understandable considering our history. As with everything racist/discriminatory, context matters. As such, the terms remain but the context today is different and doesn't imply racism... Words evolve.. meanings shift.... There are plenty of words in our language that have derogatory, insulting, offensive roots... but again.. context matters.

CNN wasn't the first to have an article like this... there are dozens that have been published well even before the internet was in existence. Are you saying that this is the first time you all noticed? Really? Or is it just another stab at a news source that you despise....??

There was a time a straight male in a happy mood would be called "gay". Today, doing that might get you punched.

You right conservatives are as hung up on racism as the looney left.
I was highly disappointed in the tone of the article. Just gave a history of the words and phrases but did not really spin them with outrage. I did think the Master's golf thing was a bit off because I figured it was referring to the golfer's skill as opposed to slave masters.

A couple of others seemed weak "Master bedroom". I always figured that came from the fact that the other bedrooms were for the kids and the parent's were the "masters".

But where do these right wingers think "Sold down the river" came from?
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:16 AM
 
Location: USA
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Well, thank the LORD I have CNN around to educate my un-woke self.
Elitism at its finest...
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:16 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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You are talking about SAN(fibre channel and ISCSI) architecture there, completely different than the IDE bus(which now uses mostsly SATA) on a local system. SCSI was fairly well used in higher end servers back in the day for local storage (like the Adaptec 2940 controller) but these days its kind of exclusively a SAN thing.


At some point i bet these terms will come under attack too.
I know they are different (I am a development manager in storage albeit in the software side). I was saying that the term master/slave is still used in the context of both... .. even by white engineers... haha. its not in the context of being racist BUT they still have its roots/connotations in racist pass.

Again.. context matters.. in this tech topic as well as the wider general use in common language.

I doubt it will go any further than this thread... there have been decades of articles on these terms well before computers. It is silly to think that the vast majority of those wanting better/equal treatment are hung up solely on such trivial things....
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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lol
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:22 AM
 
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No, it wasn't a sliding noose, but the knot was tied that way intentionally. Yes, I'm aware that it was reportedly tied that way since last fall. That doesn't have anything to do with it not being your average piece of rope tied in a loop.

Further, Bubba never reported it - his crew chief did after another member of the crew notified him of it. Were a bunch of the garages' pull-downs tied this way? Lots of loops, only one tied up with the multiple coils above the loop, evidently.

So, while it doesn't seem that it was aimed at Bubba specifically, that pull-down is intentionally tied to look like a noose.
In saner times, if one noticed something like that, you'd just untie it and retie it into another type of knot and that's the end of it.
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Is there something in the article that is factually incorrect? Got a problem with history and knowledge?

The article is explaining that there exist terms in our regular common vocabulary that have its roots in racism... understandable considering our history. As with everything racist/discriminatory, context matters. As such, the terms remain but the context today is different and doesn't imply racism... Words evolve.. meanings shift.... There are plenty of words in our language that have derogatory, insulting, offensive roots... but again.. context matters.

CNN wasn't the first to have an article like this... there are dozens that have been published well even before the internet was in existence. Are you saying that this is the first time you all noticed? Really? Or is it just another stab at a news source that you despise....??

There was a time a straight male in a happy mood would be called "gay". Today, doing that might get you punched.

You right conservatives are as hung up on racism as the looney left.
I used uppity the other day about non-mask wearers. Had I known it was racist, I would have not used it. Sold up the river I'll replace with thrown under the bus when talking about being double crossed.

The problem I see is people don't like that they are being told to change the way they think regardless of the why or how. People are always like that. I'm sure some people preferred two lame roads before they were widened...
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