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Old 07-06-2020, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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It wasn’t a planned conspiracy. But it is what the country looks like now, and where it is heading. Any successful political party has to reflect what the country looks like now, now that it was 50 years ago.

Good luck in finding another country that meets your racial/ethnic requirements. You’ll need it.
Oh it was a planned conspiracy, Kennedy was just the face of it but those behind it knew EXACTLY what would happen. Oh and I already planned where we are going well kind of. Its Eastern Europe but narrowed down to about 4 countries.
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out..
Oh I won't. I'll sit back and laugh as America,which won't be America by then collapses. We see what happens when the lowest common denominator runs a nation, it goes right into the toilet. Europe, well Eastern Europe will be flourishing and America will look like nations in Africa. Enjoy it!
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Old 07-06-2020, 03:49 PM
bu2
 
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We have a destiny to become majority-minority based upon the current demographics of the country. There’s not a thing that can be done to change that. The cake is baked.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-a...nsus-projects/

https://www.chicagoreporter.com/the-...ppear-forever/

We are predicted to become majority-minority around 2045 to 2050.

But there is another factor that is significant politically. Historically, America has not only been a non-Hispanic white majority nation, but until recently, a majority non-Hispanic non-college white nation. In the days of the Nixon landslide of 1972 and Reagan landslide of 1984, non-college whites made up 70%+ of eligible voters. In 2016, non-college whites made up 44% of eligible voters. They have been losing 2% to 3% of eligible voters every 4 year POTUS cycle for over 20 years. This year, they are expected to fall to 42%.

The fact is that white college graduates as a bloc vote very differently from white non-college. They are much more likely to be Democrats, and unlike white non-college, white college democrats are as a group much younger and are actually still slowly increasing share. They are becoming a larger share of the total white vote every cycle. The more that a candidate like a Donald Trump tries to increase white non-college turnout by waging cultural war, the more he alienates white college graduates and minorities or all types. Unless Trump can increase his share of minority and white college vote, he has to continually increase turnout and/or voting percentage of white non-college voters just to keep from losing ground. It can work short-term for an old man like Trump, but it’s a death knell for a political party.

It’s no coincidence that the Republicans have only won the national popular vote 1 time in the last 7 elections. Currently, their only path of victory is prevailing in the Electoral College while losing the popular vote by larger and larger amounts. It’s true that the EC is all that matters in presidential elections, but it’s also true that in only 5 of 58 elections has a President been elected without winning the popular vote. It has always been the exception rather than the rule.
Since LBJ, Obama is the only Democrat to get over 50.08 % of the vote (Carter was barely over 50%). Seems like the Dems are struggling to get people to vote for them too.

You are showing your arrogance and disdain of non-college graduates. And the fact is that non-college graduates have traditionally been a Democratic stronghold. They are losing that. And white college graduates are still voting mostly Republican no matter what you and your condescending Democratic college graduates say.
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Old 07-06-2020, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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Don't count your chickens before they hatch. I think several people thought Beto from Texas was the up and coming star Texas star for the Dems; what happened there? I guess the stars were not so bright. Fl was won by Obama I do believe and is not solid red by any means, it does lean red though and will, still most likely go red; that is up in the air: Ky is most likely going to stay red and as for GA, the best chance they have of going blue would be naming the Atlanta mayor as Biden's running mate: that is not likely but possible. Nothing is a "for sure" especially this year. HOW the 2 candidates handle the late summer and fall campaign will tell the story not what we are seeing today. You have to look at it this way: you have a candidate that has done a lot for our country but is extremely unpopular personality wise running against a candidate that is liked as a person but has no leadership ability and appears to be failing, mentally pretty fast. Just the other day he made the comment, when he used to go to his office in the White house everyday thus and so happened. How many realize he VP does not have his office in the White House. He really doesn't know what he is talking about 2/3rds of the time. He takes credit or things he was not even involved in. He should have been the candidate in 2016. not now.

Just one more thing, don't put so much on what you are reading right now or seeing on TV. Take everything with a grain of salt and realize hardly anything we are viewing is without bias.
If by a lot, you mean made is the #1 by far COVID hotspot on the planet, lost more jobs in 3 months as POTUS than any other President in history, and has betrayed our allies and supported dictators every chance he's gotten, then yes he'd done a lot.
But nothing he's done has been good.
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Old 07-06-2020, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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You’re a Canadian. Worry about your own elections.

And keep on whistling past the graveyard if it makes that poster more comfortable.
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Old 07-06-2020, 03:56 PM
 
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Since LBJ, Obama is the only Democrat to get over 50.08 % of the vote (Carter was barely over 50%). Seems like the Dems are struggling to get people to vote for them too.

You are showing your arrogance and disdain of non-college graduates. And the fact is that non-college graduates have traditionally been a Democratic stronghold. They are losing that. And white college graduates are still voting mostly Republican no matter what you and your condescending Democratic college graduates say.
White college grads are no longer Republican.

Here’s the results of the Pew Research review of 2016 results based upon validated voters.

White non-college voters: Trump 64% Clinton 28%
White college grads: Trump 38% Clinton 55%

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...idated-voters/

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Old 07-06-2020, 03:59 PM
 
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Democratic Party sees many Southern States now winable
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For Trump and Conservatives. That's nothing new though.
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:00 PM
 
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White college grads are no longer Republican.

Here’s the results of the Pew Research review of 2016 results based upon validated voters.

White non-college voters: Trump 64% Clinton 28%
White college goers: Trump 38% Clinton 55%

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...idated-voters/
When questioned at gatherings and protests, time after time students admitted that they had not voted at all much less for hellary.
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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When questioned at gatherings and protests, time after time students admitted that they had not voted at all much less for hellary.
I think we'll see Millenials and Gen-Xers showing up this November. It's a group that leans left even in more moderate times. In our current hyper-politicized climate, I don't think it bodes well for Trump.
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:20 PM
bu2
 
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White college grads are no longer Republican.

Here’s the results of the Pew Research review of 2016 results based upon validated voters.

White non-college voters: Trump 64% Clinton 28%
White college grads: Trump 38% Clinton 55%

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...idated-voters/
That's totally different than everything else I have seen. I'm not going to dig into it to see all the details. Here's what everybody else was reporting (and note that Brookings is liberal): https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...2016-election/

"...Heading into the election, many believed Hillary Clinton would become the first Democratic nominee for president to win white voters with college and postgraduate degrees in over six decades. This prediction did not quite come true. Clinton lost white college graduates by four percentage points (45 percent–49 percent). Clinton even under-performed among white women with a college degree, winning only 51 percent of their vote. Overall, however, Clinton won voters with a college degree (52 percent) and Trump won voters without a college degree (52 percent). Nationally, 27.8 percent of Americans hold at least a BA degree...."
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:26 PM
 
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The majority is pissed alright...but pissed at Trump for his horrible economy (lost more jobs in 3 months than any POTUS in HISTORY)...calling Covid a hoax and doing nothing to lead the country during it...continually dividing us by only stoking his base and doing nothing to bring us together. Nope, intelligent people are not going to vote for him again.
He's going to lose big.
And the job loss had nothing to do with the fact that we are in a pandemic/sarcasm

Obama spent 8 years dividing us all. What do you expect? Trump to wave a magic wand and fix it all?

You also know that it's up to the individual states to deal with COVID. If Trump tried to tell them all what to do, you and your ilk would have been screaming about how he was being a dictator. You can't have it both ways.

Intelligent people are fed up with all the protesters/rioters/looters/vandals. They are also fed up with the governors and mayors who sat back and did nothing about it. They even told their police to stand down and allow the violence to continue.
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