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Old 07-06-2020, 05:15 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Atlas said that he has done more than a superficial analysis of the numbers, and after analyzing them, he doesn’t get scared. Explaining, “When you look all over at the states who are seeing a lot of new cases, you have to look at who is getting infected because we should know by now, that the goal is not to eliminate all cases, that’s not rational, it’s not necessary, if we just protect the people who are going to have serious complications. We look at the cases, yes there’s a lot more cases, by the way they do not correlate in a time sense to any kind of reopening of states. If you look at the timing, that’s just a misstatement, a false narrative. The reality is they may correlate to the new protests and massive demonstrations, but it’s safe to say the majority of new cases are among younger, healthier people.”

Furthermore, Dr. Atlas emphasized the fact that the death rates are not going up, despite the increase in cases. “And that’s what really counts, are we getting people who are really sick and dying, and we’re not, and when we look at the hospitalizations, yes, hospitals are more crowded, but that’s mainly due to the re-installation of medical care for non COVID-19 patients.”

Dr. Atlas used Texas of an example saying, “90+% of ICU beds are occupied, but only 15% are COVID patients. 85% of the occupied beds are not COVID patients. I think we have to look at the data and be aware that it doesn’t matter if younger, healthier people get infected, I don’t know how often that has to be said, they have nearly zero risk of a problem from this. The only thing that counts are the older, more vulnerable people getting infected. And there’s no evidence that they really are.”
Link to YouTube video: https://youtu.be/IPPRwEW-5-g

Link to article: https://www.****.com/dr-scott-atlas-...lth-officials/

If you are tired of the COVID-19 liars in the media and government (and on C-D and social media), this interview is really fantastic. He is right on all points.

On Edit: the link for the article is being censored for some reason. The missing letters are K - U - S - I, lowercase - it's a news station in San Diego.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:15 PM
 
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death rates are not going up, despite the increase in cases. “And that’s what really counts..."

No it isn't, and it never has been. What really counts is - as he partially noted - is how full the hospitals are.


YES - I realize - we ALL realize - that some elective procedures and so on now result in a "regular" hospital "fullness" rate - which is not good news. What it means is - we have less beds for COVID people.


It means that if there's just a SLIGHT rise in infections - not a crazy rise - we can run out of beds. The time to worry is not at 99% of beds. It doesn't work that way. 80% or so is the "panic" time. We're there, in some communities.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeHippocrates View Post
This guy sounds full of s***, and should probably have his medical license suspended. Where is this "analysis of the numbers" he did? The death rate might not be going up, but it is holding pretty steady.


How would he know the ages of who is being infected? This information would be protected under HIPAA regulations. And to say it doesn't matter if young people get infected? What about the young people that have died from contracting this virus, or those that have sustained permanent respiratory damage?


Then again I see he's at Stanford, so not much of a surprise.
All you have to do is read the papers to know the ages of those being infected. Nothing restricts aggregated data.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:44 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Originally Posted by TennesseeHippocrates View Post
This guy sounds full of s***, and should probably have his medical license suspended. Where is this "analysis of the numbers" he did? The death rate might not be going up, but it is holding pretty steady.


How would he know the ages of who is being infected? This information would be protected under HIPAA regulations. And to say it doesn't matter if young people get infected? What about the young people that have died from contracting this virus, or those that have sustained permanent respiratory damage?


Then again I see he's at Stanford, so not much of a surprise.
What's your medical or epidemiological training?

Thought so.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:54 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Master's Degree. What yours?
Well, Dr. Atlas knows more than you then. You should try listening to him since you aren't interested in looking at the data.
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