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Old 07-29-2020, 03:28 PM
 
Location: MD
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I just checked, and the Texas map doesn't show any area that's "overrun". And the Florida article just says "at capacity", not "overrun". So my question still stands.

Yes, everything is clearly very normal. Let's stop these dumb games and reopen everything mask-free


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Old 07-29-2020, 03:36 PM
 
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Yes, everything is clearly very normal. Let's stop these dumb games and reopen everything mask-free


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I guess you missed the point which is that yet another doomsday prediction turned out to be wrong.
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Old 07-29-2020, 03:45 PM
 
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another doomsday prediction turned out to be wrong.

Well that is what you were hoping to show, until I debunked it in three minutes. Then after realizing you were wrong, you started playing dumb word-games like differentiating between "at capacity" and "overrun," which comes across as pathetic.


Here are some more stats for you. But sure, keep up the frail defense here. https://www.city-data.com/forum/atta...-07-28-9.20.55
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Old 07-29-2020, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I just checked, and the Texas map doesn't show any area that's "overrun". And the Florida article just says "at capacity", not "overrun". So my question still stands.
Houstonian here. Married to someone who works in a hospital every day. I would not describe hospitals here as having been overrun at any point, but it doesn't mean things are completely business as usual. Things are very, very busy and staff have had their game face on for many weeks now. We've been about 20% into what they are calling Phase II surge planning (with Phase I being normal operations where ICU's are usually 70%-80% full) for a couple of weeks now, but things look to be leveling off and perhaps even falling.

Hospitals have continued, for the most part, to offer full services throughout this spike, including all medically necessary and even elective surgical procedures. My husband did 3 cases today and has rarely been unable to operate. Decisions seem to be made by health systems on a weekly basis (i.e. they'll allow Outpatient cases only, or only cases where they expect to use a Med Surg bed for a day or two). Different hospitals have different policies on this.

I think staffing is a bit of an issue because many hospital and clinic staff have been infected and are ill, or in some cases, have to quarantine even if asymptomatic. That's been a challenge here and there from what I hear.

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Old 07-29-2020, 03:52 PM
 
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That means hospitals around the US will have just enough time to prepare for the explosion of cases that will will be swamping ER's after the July 4th bash. For example, hospital beds are full in parts of Texas and other states hard hit by the Coronavirus even as Trump downplays the severity of the disease by saying over the weekend "99% of cases are totally harmless."

"Our hospitals here in Harris County, Houston, and 33 other cities... they're into surge capacities. So their operational beds are taken up," said Lina Hidalgo, chief executive of Harris County, which includes Houston, Texas."

https://www.france24.com/en/20200706...-in-india-soar

What a crock. And what a shame. Millions of party-happy US kids just couldn't keep themselves from packing themselves together like sardines without wearing masks Fourth of July :
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58.4% of cases are in the 18-49 age group:
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID...Age-Group.aspx

Anyone who thinks the healthcare system in this country won't be near bankruptcy by this fall when the flu season starts is either naive or blind. Already hospital personnel are quitting because they can't stand the strain their job is imposing on them. Providence Health Systems alone which owns 51 hospitals estimates that, even after accounting for federal stimulus dollars, it still LOST $400 million in April.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/15/u...ronavirus.html
ARE any of them Rioters or BLM members?
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Old 07-29-2020, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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My home town is the only major medical center in a +200-mile radius, and the hospitals here are now having a terrible problem.

Summer here is always accident season. We get millions of tourists passing through this area, and our highways aren't very congested, so everyone speeds.
Our cities are all so far apart we measure our journeys in hours instead of miles. Our hospitals are the only ones large enough to care for major injuries. The closest help available for hundreds of miles in every direction, even by helicopter.

Our state cops call it the 'Deadly 100 days.' Our hospitals have filled up with traffic accident victims from as far away as Wyoming and Montana because our facilities are the only ones capable of keeping the severely injured alive.

This July has been worse than average. There has been a highway accident almost every day this month, and more folks have died this month than in any other July in recent history.
We have 2 life flight medical helos here, and I've heard them flying over at least once a day all month. They never fly unless someone is close to death.

The accidents have filled up all the ICU space in town. So when a COVID-19 victim shows up needing ICU care, there's no place to put them.

COVID didn't hit us on the first go-round in March. But now, it's summer, and folks naturally want to get out of the house and go do something. Many are afraid to stop along the way to grab a bite to eat or to get a night's rest at a motel for fear of catching the virus.
So they're driving too fast, too long, in their haste to get to where they're going, and they're ending up in the hospital, all broken to pieces.

Our hospitals were able to prepare for the needs of the community to fight the virus, but they couldn't predict they would be overwhelmed by so many accident victims.
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Old 07-29-2020, 04:44 PM
 
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Well that is what you were hoping to show, until I debunked it in three minutes. Then after realizing you were wrong, you started playing dumb word-games like differentiating between "at capacity" and "overrun," which comes across as pathetic.


Here are some more stats for you. But sure, keep up the frail defense here. https://www.city-data.com/forum/atta...-07-28-9.20.55
Do you remember why we were all supposed to be afraid in the first place? We were told that hospitals would be overrun, resulting in a bunch of people dying as a result of going untreated. Did that happen? No, it didn't.

You're the one playing pointless word games to fit your narrative.
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Old 07-29-2020, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Do you remember why we were all supposed to be afraid in the first place? We were told that hospitals would be overrun, resulting in a bunch of people dying as a result of going untreated. Did that happen? No, it didn't.

You're the one playing pointless word games to fit your narrative.
Yes it did! New York state and New York city hospitals were over-run so badly they were trying to treat patients on stretchers in the hallways.

That's why Hart Island began filling up with bodies. There was no place left to be able to identify the dead before burial because all the cold storage was over-run.
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Old 07-29-2020, 07:27 PM
 
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So you think hospitals will have more business than they can handle... and they will go bankrupt? How's that going to work?

Many will close I would think. I'm a retired RN and I wonder how hospital workers are enduring this workload in the "hot spots".
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Old 07-29-2020, 07:30 PM
 
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Do you remember why we were all supposed to be afraid in the first place? We were told that hospitals would be overrun, resulting in a bunch of people dying as a result of going untreated. Did that happen? No, it didn't.

You're the one playing pointless word games to fit your narrative.

Where have you been? It is happening unfortunately.
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