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From their perspective the cities are "fixed". The priorities are:
An intown area of 10% to 20% of the city where property values are high and the affluent, educated white elite live within walking distance to upscale shopping and entertainment. This enclave is all the really matters. It is a "safe space" and a groupthink bubble, a perch from which to look down on the flyover country deplorables.
City govt. officials who parrot the DNC daily talking points.
A bloated and highly paid city workforce which include plentiful do-nothing jobs for left wing activists.
A large population of unemployed/unemployable people to service as a customer base for city "services".
Wow. That's the most accurate description of Dem-governed cities I've ever seen.
For the same reason red states get back more in federal assistance then they pay in fed taxes. It's complicated (poverty, mismanagement, stupidity). One thing is for sure, every state should receive exactly what they put into the system. No more, no less. And the excess funds the blue states could get back should go to help their people. Why in the world does Illinois of all states over pay on fed income taxes. They need their money. They have their own problems. Same with CA.
You have to look at who's actually getting those freebie Fed Gov public assistance benefits. There is no area (city, county, or state) that votes 100% R or D. So take a look at which political demographic is sucking up Fed Gov resources the most.
Democrats outnumber Republicans by more than 2 to 1 in public assistance program enrollment.
Percent of Public Assistance Program Recipients Who Identify as:
Democrat:
Public Housing: 81%
Medicaid: 74%
Food Stamps: 67%
Welfare or public assistance: 63%
Republican:
Public Housing: 12%
Medicaid: 16%
Food Stamps: 20%
Welfare or public assistance: 22%
Cites both a Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs (syracuse.edu) study and NPR as data sources. And easily confirmed by cross-referencing Pew Research's study on Food Stamp recipients:
What's interesting about the Pew Research study poll is that it asked about the receipt of Food Stamp benefits over one's entire adult lifetime. And it confirms the Maxwell Poll's reported stats.
Finally, looking solely at political party affiliation and income:
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"An individual’s likelihood of being a Democrat decreases with every additional dollar he or she earns. Democrats have a huge advantage (63 percent) with voters earning less than $15,000 per year. This advantage carries forward for individuals earning up to $50,000 per year, and then turns in the Republicans’ favor — with just 36 percent of individuals earning more than $200,000 per year supporting Democrats."
Interestingly, the median household income in the United States is $49,777 — right near the point where the Democratic advantage disappears and the Republicans take over."
The answer to the following question would be extremely helpful: Why are those who self-identify as Democrats so much less likely to be able to support themselves and their dependents?
Are they inept, don't care, or are the democrat politicians benefitting too much by all the carnage and destruction to make any changes? (they are benefitting by keeping their office & income to keep it as is).
Is the reason the same in every city, or does it vary city to city?
I think in Chicago, they just don't care. They seem content letting the gangbangers kill each other off. That could work if we shut down the Mexican border, but there are more Mexican cartel gangsters moving to Chicago each day than there are gangbangers getting murdered.
Maybe we need to bring back Eric Holder and his Fast and Furious free guns program, and hand them to everyone standing on the street corners in South Chicago. Maybe increasing the murder rate would be better since the Dems wont close down the border, or end sanctuary cities?
Another, "Look. See? They are takers and not makers." post.
You can't create a condition and then wash your hands of it as if you had nothing to do with it.
These cities, with a large population that votes democrat, who are mostly African American, didn't create those conditions themselves.
That's tantamount to the US dropping nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and then 50 years later saying, why are they so unhealthy? Don't they take care of themselves?
Bombs were dropped on Tulsa, OK over a thriving black district and now we talk about welfare and public housing.
Redlining and the black tax, we we talk about a lack of home ownership? etc. etc.
Institutions create these conditions and people like you point fingers at those on the receiving end of racism and discrimination. As if these people choose to live this way.
You see laziness, gangbangers, etc. I see denied opportunity and disenfranchisement which produces gangs and a large welfare population.
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Originally Posted by beach43ofus
Are you saying its a natural state-of-being? When property taxes and crime get too high, those middle class families who are able to leave, do leave, and that leaves the gangbangers and victims behind?
Is all that by no fault of anyone, and just a natural sequence of events?
Are Democrats powerless to fix it? Did they create it, or was it just bad luck?
Easiest answer is don't have property taxes that are much higher than surrounding areas. I get the same or better services in my suburban city than in the nearby central city and pay less tax. I think the extra tax goes to unneeded positions. City I mentioned pays $150k per year for a school spokesperson. Where I live there is no paid position for that.
You have to look at who's actually getting those freebie Fed Gov public assistance benefits. There is no area (city, county, or state) that votes 100% R or D. So take a look at which political demographic is sucking up Fed Gov resources the most.
Democrats outnumber Republicans by more than 2 to 1 in public assistance program enrollment.
Percent of Public Assistance Program Recipients Who Identify as:
Democrat:
Public Housing: 81%
Medicaid: 74%
Food Stamps: 67%
Welfare or public assistance: 63%
Republican:
Public Housing: 12%
Medicaid: 16%
Food Stamps: 20%
Welfare or public assistance: 22%
Cites both a Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs (syracuse.edu) study and NPR as data sources. And easily confirmed by cross-referencing Pew Research's study on Food Stamp recipients:
What's interesting about the Pew Research study poll is that it asked about the receipt of Food Stamp benefits over one's entire adult lifetime. And it confirms the Maxwell Poll's reported stats.
Finally, looking solely at political party affiliation and income:
The answer to the following question would be extremely helpful: Why are those who self-identify as Democrats so much less likely to be able to support themselves and their dependents?
Look at how they got in that situation. And then get back to us. It is called historical research. You are looking at current conditions while ignoring the laws, processes, and institutions that created those conditions.
Or perhaps you already did and it led you to a conclusion that you disagree with?
Rather than this being the usual rant about how horrible cities are, what are the five things you would do to improve them?
Or is this just the usual bash the Democrats thread?
Install Guliani type Republicans to govern these cities. Guliani totally turned NYC crime around from the Democrat wasteland it was. Now under Dem woke mayor DeBlasio It’s back to a crime ridden progressive (LOL) wasteland.
Another, "Look. See? They are takers and not makers." post.
You can't create a condition and then wash your hands of it as if you had nothing to do with it.
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Originally Posted by adelphi_sky
Look at how they got in that situation. And then get back to us.
When Dems and Republicans both live in the same area, why is it Dems, at a rate of more than 2 to 1, that are incapable of supporting themselves and their dependents?
From their perspective the cities are "fixed". The priorities are:
An intown area of 10% to 20% of the city where property values are high and the affluent, educated white elite live within walking distance to upscale shopping and entertainment. This enclave is all the really matters. It is a "safe space" and a groupthink bubble, a perch from which to look down on the flyover country deplorables.
City govt. officials who parrot the DNC daily talking points.
A bloated and highly paid city workforce which include plentiful do-nothing jobs for left wing activists.
A large population of unemployed/unemployable people to service as a customer base for city "services".
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