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Old 07-07-2020, 03:27 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Would you be upset if someone(or a city) put up a Osama bin Laden statue for his bravery in fighting against the Soviet Union during the Soviet/Afghanistan war?

He was a very vital asset for the U.S.
So erect his statue in Afghanistan... I could care less...
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:55 PM
 
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Would you be upset if someone(or a city) put up a Osama bin Laden statue for his bravery in fighting against the Soviet Union during the Soviet/Afghanistan war?

He was a very vital asset for the U.S.
Aren’t they erecting one in Seattle?
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:57 PM
 
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Well, the statue of lenin is still standing in the great seattle area.....so......




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin_(Seattle)


So, I'm sure the left would love it, right next to lenin....
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Old 07-07-2020, 04:00 PM
 
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I can see Democrats replacing confederate statues with statues of Floyd, Brooks, Osama, Baghdadi, Saddam Hussein, etc. Their role models.

Yes.
Nothing like worshiping a guy who put a gun to a pregnant women's stomach, robbed her and had a felony rap sheet bigger than his IQ and the family milked the dumb as rock citizens who donated to this violent felon's FUND.
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Old 07-07-2020, 05:35 PM
 
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The only point you have is the one on top of your head OP.
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Old 07-07-2020, 05:38 PM
 
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A statue of Osama bin Laden? He a Muslim, right? Do I need to explain?
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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American statues have little to no significance to the world or our people.

I get we are a country heavily endowed with a sense of conformity and dullness, but having a monument of incredible scale would mean we are a country that cares about things more than just the stock market and financial wealth.

In India for example they have the statue of unity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Unity

Many Buddha statues are just tools to extract tourist dollars but the statues in the Potala Palace and Shigaste were covered in gold and were hollowed out so that a Buddhist monk could rest inside the vessel and have his body preservered.

Religious idolism is not good but caring about things enough to invest significant capital and time that could have otherwised been used to increase national wealth shows a dedication to a country based on more than money.

Most of the humanitarians and political leaders use patriotism to extol America as a beacon of democracy and 'liberalism'. They say America is great because of our dedication to western democracy and internationalism.

Conservatives say America is great because of our wealth and income mobility for new immigrants.

This is all poison; if you love a country then it should be independent of how well that country performs. If you love America you should love it even if it is poor and miserable. If America were to fall from grace would all these 'patriots' abandon their home country? If so that just shows how meaningless this form of patriotism is.

And it reflects itself in the size and scale of our monuments, despite our extreme wealth and labor pool. Osama can be despised but that is meaningless, find something that matters to this country for some reason be it human, beast, or thing. If Afghanistan matters most to Americans then so be it.

DC is quite the exception, but even there most of the statues are relegated to alcoves which while charming make them seem more like a decoration such as a Roman fountain or some public art peace like the Chicago bean. Monuments are more than art, they are a sign of dedication and investment and the level of sacrifice each individual is willing to make for their country.

In the korean war memorial (I think) the soldiers are seen as significant because they allow Americans to sacrifice nothing for the convenience called freedom. Sacrifice is not something to be pitied or mourned, it means people are part of something more. It may be fake or artificial, but what else do we have if we only see our selves as the means and ends of our existence.
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:14 PM
 
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If so it should be erected at the entrance of who funded, trained, armed and supported him...that would be in Langley, VA. On second thought forgetaboutit...
No evidence of that whatsoever.
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:41 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Well, the statue of lenin is still standing in the great seattle area.....so......




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin_(Seattle)


So, I'm sure the left would love it, right next to lenin....
They've been trying to take that down for a long time... Some guy brought it to the US after it was found in a junk yard originally intended as a joke of communism. Unfortunately, its private lands and the family of the guy refuses...

Its for sale... welcome to buy it and trash it if you like.
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I have a better idea.

How about a statue for Charlie Daniels, who died yesterday. A great American.
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