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Old 07-15-2020, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
More BS.

Children don't have to be in classrooms to learn. Thousands and thousands of children are homeschooled and do just fine in the world.

Your concern about the children of single mothers is touching.
Many, many kids are in single-parent households these days (due to various reasons). That means they really can't be homeschooled. Do you think the single parent should leave their child at home alone, while they go off to work? CPS would come after them, if they did that. The belief that everyone can homeschool is extremely flawed.
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:50 AM
 
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What's changed? We were told back in February from numbers coming out of China that children were not likely to die from coronavirus. So why exactly did we shut down schools in mid-March? Was it out of an abundance of caution that they could spread the virus to parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, etc?

And what exactly has changed? In some ways - nothing. In other ways - everything.

Children are still considered the least vulnerable age group, just like in February.

What has changed is the politics. Trump can't win election if the economy is in the dumpster. The economy can't recover if parents can't return to work because they have to be home to educate their children.

Just call it what it is. The move is a political necessity for Trump's reelection bid.
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This is the funny thing. Conservative groups have advocated and actively participated in homeschooling for years and years and years.

All of a sudden now the public school system is necessary for our kids to thrive. It is funny..
The wealthy one percent want the parents to get back to work and keep grinding out wealth for the economy.

And many conservatives simply don't care if those people get sick or die from corona virus. Wealthy people can safely stay home and have other people run errands for them, etc. And if hospitals were overflowing, do you really think a wealthy person wouldn't get a hospital bed and ventilator? They would let a poorer person die or kick them out of the hospital so that Ted Cruz or Dan Patrick could get a bed & ventilator.
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What's changed?
Essentially, nothing.

There's no vaccine and no therapeutic that's proven effective.

Add to that, these problems still remain:

Inadequate testing
Inadequate PPE
Inadequate leadership
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Just call it what it is. The move is a political necessity for Trump's reelection bid.
That's all it is.

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Old 07-15-2020, 10:06 AM
 
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The future math of America:

At the beginning of the school year, 30 children ender kindergarten. At the end of the school year, 28 children finish kindergarten. How many children did not finish the school year?

A) China
B) Fake News
C) 2
D) Covfefe
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:09 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Fmr. Obama education secretary Arne Duncan was asked repeatedly by Fox’s Sandra Smith to cite data in support of his warnings against opening schools. He cited nothing. There’s a reason for that. Nearly all the data point the other way.


https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1283425929465925632
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Brit Hume? You didn't have a monkey in a diaper to use to give the tweet some legitimacy, class, and intelligence?
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Many, many kids are in single-parent households these days (due to various reasons). That means they really can't be homeschooled. Do you think the single parent should leave their child at home alone, while they go off to work? CPS would come after them, if they did that. The belief that everyone can homeschool is extremely flawed.
Exactly. I work with numerous students who have a single-parent and may live in multi-generation housing situations.

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What's changed? We were told back in February from numbers coming out of China that children were not likely to die from coronavirus. So why exactly did we shut down schools in mid-March? Was it out of an abundance of caution that they could spread the virus to parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, etc?

And what exactly has changed? In some ways - nothing. In other ways - everything.

Children are still considered the least vulnerable age group, just like in February.

What has changed is the politics. Trump can't win election if the economy is in the dumpster. The economy can't recover if parents can't return to work because they have to be home to educate their children.

Just call it what it is. The move is a political necessity for Trump's reelection bid.
As I have said numerous times, for the 2019-20 budget, most of the money was spent. You may have had just over a quarter of the budget remaining. Without getting emergency funding to cover Covid, districts wouldn't have the money to cover social distancing. This is beyond concerns of the virus which at the time we really only knew of the hospitalized cases, not asymptomatic cases and general caution of spread and crushing the hospital system.

Trump will have economic trouble in about a week. Congress has a week to get a new stimulus and unemployment payment out there. As states close again, we have more people going on unemployment. Some states like Arizona start the eviction process again after next Friday regardless of how Arizona is and the fact gyms and bars closed again. You really think anyone struggling without their kids returning to school will vote for Trump?

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The wealthy one percent want the parents to get back to work and keep grinding out wealth for the economy.

And many conservatives simply don't care if those people get sick or die from corona virus. Wealthy people can safely stay home and have other people run errands for them, etc. And if hospitals were overflowing, do you really think a wealthy person wouldn't get a hospital bed and ventilator? They would let a poorer person die or kick them out of the hospital so that Ted Cruz or Dan Patrick could get a bed & ventilator.
Yep and they lie about the whole "Oh we call people back and they refuse to come back to work." They cannot unless they have a comorbidity. Anyone else doing this will lose benefits if reported. If companies are actually hearing that people will not come back, they aren't reporting it to the DES/DOL.
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Old 07-15-2020, 12:33 PM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 26 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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The government is the people, of the people. It's supposed to be at least and when it's not the people should remove those in government.

I do agree that people are dependent. I mean, I think we are at a cross roads in our society between technology and individual self-management. People are very dependent on technology, healthcare, on infrastructure. And sure, that cord really can't be cut for the vast majority. I doubt our society could last a month without it. To add insult to injury most people do not understand how the technology they depend on even works.
A POTUS is meant to manage. Delegating requires having a plan, experience, wisdom, and critical thinking. It's steering the ship. And saying that our ship doesn't require a captain to steer is nonsense. We have that right now actually and look what's happening.
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The government is the people, of the people.
That is what the government wants you to believe ... and you do, that is why you wait on them to tell you what to do. Like I said, brainwashed ... into being dependent.

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require a captain to steer is nonsense
Captain delegates, he is not the chief, cook and the bottle washer ... there is no way he can be all those things. The captain is not steering the ship, his first officer is ... By declaring a National Emergency, the POTUS, releases the laws that bind so that the Governors could make a plan and take care of their own. They plot their own course of action proved to them by the 10th amendment. //end leadership

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We have that right now actually and look what's happening.
People all around the world woke up to the fact, they had no rights, as far as their government was concerned. Here could have been worse, one could have been shot for leaving their house. Is that the plan you are looking for ... ? Everyone made to do the exact same thing as everyone else?

Education system is to get back on track ... they do have a choice and they do know the consequences of their choice. The ball is in their court.

Last edited by Ellis Bell; 07-15-2020 at 12:49 PM..
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Old 07-15-2020, 12:38 PM
Status: "119 N/A" (set 20 days ago)
 
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Trump's attempt to establish some semblance of hunky-dory close to election time. Sorry bud we'er only four months into this thing and its only getting worse.
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