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Old 07-08-2020, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Identifying yourself and/or being identified as a fellow white person of good conservative character.
I’m not a conservative. If anything I’m a centrist who leans right on some issues and left on others.
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:35 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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My kids are mixed.. so we've always hated that race question on various forms.
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:36 PM
 
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I’m not a conservative. If anything I’m a centrist who leans right on some issues and left on others.
Yeah you wanting to write new hate crime laws, would be a little problematic. But in an all white jurisdiction crazy ideas could be tolerated because they would have very little support or racial leverage.
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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That's good enough for me.
On paper only. I don’t go around saying I’m a white guy, but when it asks on a form I put down white. Under my new no racism laws if I identify as white then I go to jail for 25 years.
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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No, I'm saying eliminate the paperwork. No affirmative action, no free loans for minorities, no civil rights for anyone, eliminate race from law, separation of race and state as it were.

You're either an American or you're not.
The 14th amendment was put into place because, left to their own devices with no government controls or regulations, certain people in the deep South were refusing other certain people (blacks) the rights God gave them.

"Paperwork" (aka the 14th, Jim Crow laws, etc.) was NEEDED just to bring them back into the fold of normal, civilized people. Without that "paperwork" the southern slaveowners and traders would never have cleaned up their act.

Now the govt has gone way too far, mandate various gifts etc. to formerly-oppressed people. And that, in turn, has made the formerly-oppressed believe they are still oppressed, when in fact they aren't any more. And has made them unhappy, sullen, and misguided backers of groups like BLM who do nothing but harm. And the govt has now started to write racist legislation saying that blacks, Indians etc. need certain largess and support from the government while white people don't need it.

But "eliminating all the paperwork" will undo much of what GOOD was done in the 1860s.

You might want to be a little selective about what you want to eliminate.
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I have this idea, should be easy to fix, just a little wording on some laws and paperwork. Instead of asking folks to identify as a certain race or color when filling out paperwork, applying for government assistance, applying for loans, etc. Let's make an easy change where instead of asking what race someone is, ask them this:

Do you identify as an American or non-American?

Too many people are making this about race, so let's just eliminate race in the eyes of the government, end all rights, protections, laws, language, anything that ever was done to help a race or a people, just eliminate all speak about race.

Problem solved. You're either an American or you're not.
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Define "American". To a liberal, the illegal alien that just hopped over the border fence is an "American". And that illegal is surely going to say "I identify as an American" after being asked in Spanish how he identifies.
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:48 PM
 
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On paper only. I don’t go around saying I’m a white guy, but when it asks on a form I put down white. Under my new no racism laws if I identify as white then I go to jail for 25 years.
So you want to enforce no racism with Chinese government style authoritarianism. I want no racism by having a freer, independent and autonomous country of citizens who don't have to concern themselves with race.
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I got a better idea.
Get the hell out. You don’t belong here.
This place obviously aint for you. Leave if it's that bad. Quit trying to wreck it for the rest of us.
It's like inviting guests over to your house, they wont leave, and then start painting and redecorating.
GET OUT.
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Do you care to elaborate? Instead of saying "get out of here", tell me who you are talking about and why.
I think that he's referring to those who do nothing but complain about how awful the United States is regardless of race, color, religion or creed.
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