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Old 07-09-2020, 02:02 PM
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"Harvard University recently announced that it will ban students from in-person classes for the entirety of the next academic year. The decision, not based on science, is typical of the decisions made by many elites in response to the novel coronavirus sweeping the globe....


When the Asian flu hit the United States in 1957, during the Eisenhower administration, it was just the latest contagion college students had faced in a lifetime of contagious diseases. The 1957 Asian flu killed 116,000 Americans at a time the U.S. population was 172 million, just more than half the current population. That would be the equivalent of 222,000 Americans today. By comparison, the coronavirus has killed 133,000 Americans thus far.

By the time the Asian flu came along in 1957, many college students had already battled measles, mumps, chicken pox, German measles, and polio. For many years, there were no vaccines for these things. The parents of these college students had battled diphtheria, scarlet fever, typhoid fever, pneumonia, and the Spanish flu that killed 675,000 Americans and more than 50 million across the world. In today’s terms, that would be the equivalent of more than 1.6 million Americans dying from coronavirus.

There were brief, localized school closures in 1957 but the epidemic barely formed a blip in the American consciousness. It didn’t even elicit much of a mention in major Eisenhower biographies. Even the horrific Spanish flu was not a major media event. There is no historic record of President Woodrow Wilson even publicly mentioning the flu, which killed more than 0.5 percent of the U.S. population.

The 1968 Hong Kong flu was also bad, killing about 100,000 Americans when the population was just 60 percent of what it is now....


Americans put a man on the freaking moon, landed a robot on a postage size stamp of land on Mars, harnessed the power of the atom, defeated Germany in a world war — twice, invented the automobile, and defeated gravity and invented human flight. Yet right now many of us are sitting alone in our homes behind cloth masks with dubious protective qualities thinking about banning children from attending school even though they are at extremely low risk of infection or as vectors of transmission.

We need a steely resolve, not simpering fear. Nothing is going to stop us. Not polio, not Nazis, not gravity! Nothing. We’re America. We can do this."
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:11 PM
 
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Good call on their part. Better to keep students and staff safe.
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:20 PM
 
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/08...-of-hysterics/

"Harvard University recently announced that it will ban students from in-person classes for the entirety of the next academic year. The decision, not based on science, is typical of the decisions made by many elites in response to the novel coronavirus sweeping the globe....


When the Asian flu hit the United States in 1957, during the Eisenhower administration, it was just the latest contagion college students had faced in a lifetime of contagious diseases. The 1957 Asian flu killed 116,000 Americans at a time the U.S. population was 172 million, just more than half the current population. That would be the equivalent of 222,000 Americans today. By comparison, the coronavirus has killed 133,000 Americans thus far.

By the time the Asian flu came along in 1957, many college students had already battled measles, mumps, chicken pox, German measles, and polio. For many years, there were no vaccines for these things. The parents of these college students had battled diphtheria, scarlet fever, typhoid fever, pneumonia, and the Spanish flu that killed 675,000 Americans and more than 50 million across the world. In today’s terms, that would be the equivalent of more than 1.6 million Americans dying from coronavirus.

There were brief, localized school closures in 1957 but the epidemic barely formed a blip in the American consciousness. It didn’t even elicit much of a mention in major Eisenhower biographies. Even the horrific Spanish flu was not a major media event. There is no historic record of President Woodrow Wilson even publicly mentioning the flu, which killed more than 0.5 percent of the U.S. population.

The 1968 Hong Kong flu was also bad, killing about 100,000 Americans when the population was just 60 percent of what it is now....


Americans put a man on the freaking moon, landed a robot on a postage size stamp of land on Mars, harnessed the power of the atom, defeated Germany in a world war — twice, invented the automobile, and defeated gravity and invented human flight. Yet right now many of us are sitting alone in our homes behind cloth masks with dubious protective qualities thinking about banning children from attending school even though they are at extremely low risk of infection or as vectors of transmission.

We need a steely resolve, not simpering fear. Nothing is going to stop us. Not polio, not Nazis, not gravity! Nothing. We’re America. We can do this."
We'll be fine, I am sure.
But COVID-19 has not ended, so comparing what something did in some other year is meaningless. Deaths have dropped to about 1,000 a day in America and about 5,000 worldwide; it will be many hundreds of days before a vaccine or effective treatment is found.
There is no herd immunity from the flu, nor is there a standard vaccine and it may be that there is never any herd immunity from COVID-19. It is more likely that an effective treatment is found, than a vaccine.


But we'll be fine. Trump did not cause COVID-19 and his actions did not exacerbate the spread. He will probably be reelected and the screeching from The Left and the media will continue unabated.
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:25 PM
 
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Americans put a man on the freaking moon, landed a robot on a postage size stamp of land on Mars, harnessed the power of the atom, defeated Germany in a world war — twice, invented the automobile, and defeated gravity and invented human flight. Yet right now many of us are sitting alone in our homes behind cloth masks with dubious protective qualities thinking about banning children from attending school even though they are at extremely low risk of infection or as vectors of transmission."
It is clear we better start that moon program up again because with the hysteria of most of the people on the planet earth I fear the smart ones need to leave and start again.

It is absolutely irrational.
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:25 PM
 
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People in close proximity transfer the virus. That's science. Not putting them in such close proximity limits the chance of them getting it, does it not?
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:28 PM
 
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America is amazing and we as a nation have accomplished remarkable feats but that was when we were all pulling together with a common goal but today a certain political party is actually advocating to tear it all down and rebuild it. At least we have a President that is Pro America and yet they attack him for that??



What is wrong with this picture? The President wants MAGA and that is for EVERYONE both citizen and LEGAL immigrants yet the Democrats want to blow it all up.





The Covid is a major issue but we need to remember who was pushing the Doom and Gloom on us saying there would be over 2 million dead and hospitals would be over flowing. To date we have a fraction of that 2 million estimate yet they tell us that Trump is a huge failure?



Imaging how great we would all be doing if the bitter Democrats got out of the way.
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:29 PM
 
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Perspective.... hmm are the Covid deaths over the combined US deaths from every war going back to Vietnam yet?
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:29 PM
 
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/08...-of-hysterics/

"Harvard University recently announced that it will ban students from in-person classes for the entirety of the next academic year. The decision, not based on science, is typical of the decisions made by many elites in response to the novel coronavirus sweeping the globe....


When the Asian flu hit the United States in 1957, during the Eisenhower administration, it was just the latest contagion college students had faced in a lifetime of contagious diseases. The 1957 Asian flu killed 116,000 Americans at a time the U.S. population was 172 million, just more than half the current population. That would be the equivalent of 222,000 Americans today. By comparison, the coronavirus has killed 133,000 Americans thus far.

By the time the Asian flu came along in 1957, many college students had already battled measles, mumps, chicken pox, German measles, and polio. For many years, there were no vaccines for these things. The parents of these college students had battled diphtheria, scarlet fever, typhoid fever, pneumonia, and the Spanish flu that killed 675,000 Americans and more than 50 million across the world. In today’s terms, that would be the equivalent of more than 1.6 million Americans dying from coronavirus.

There were brief, localized school closures in 1957 but the epidemic barely formed a blip in the American consciousness. It didn’t even elicit much of a mention in major Eisenhower biographies. Even the horrific Spanish flu was not a major media event. There is no historic record of President Woodrow Wilson even publicly mentioning the flu, which killed more than 0.5 percent of the U.S. population.

The 1968 Hong Kong flu was also bad, killing about 100,000 Americans when the population was just 60 percent of what it is now....


Americans put a man on the freaking moon, landed a robot on a postage size stamp of land on Mars, harnessed the power of the atom, defeated Germany in a world war — twice, invented the automobile, and defeated gravity and invented human flight. Yet right now many of us are sitting alone in our homes behind cloth masks with dubious protective qualities thinking about banning children from attending school even though they are at extremely low risk of infection or as vectors of transmission.

We need a steely resolve, not simpering fear. Nothing is going to stop us. Not polio, not Nazis, not gravity! Nothing. We’re America. We can do this."

Easy for you to say, you're not the one who has to go classes with potentially infectious people.

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Old 07-09-2020, 02:40 PM
 
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False comparisons abound. Colleges are vulnerable since the majority of courses can't go to 25 or 50 percent occupancy for classes to allow for safe distancing.
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:41 PM
 
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Perspective.... hmm are the Covid deaths over the combined US deaths from every war going back to Vietnam yet?
Newp. But why did you stop at Vietnam? There is no reason to. Except that it makes your case appear valid.
Which it ain't.
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