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The plat map proves nothing. Just how the property was initially divided. See the McCloskey suit over the triangle at the end. You need to see what has occurred since the plat was drawn.
And the experts have already made it clear that they believe it was not legal.
Nope. It's the current plat map showing existing property boundaries, according to the St Louis government's legally recorded documents.
The mob was criminally trespassing. WHY weren't they charged with such?
Here in the State of Texas, even if it is marked Private Property, No Trespassing, you just cannot legally shoot someone on your property.
Now, tell them, not ask them, to leave. At that point they have a choice. Live or die. That goes for LE on your property without warrant, too.
Here in the State of Texas, even if it is marked Private Property, No Trespassing, you just cannot legally shoot someone on your property.
Now, tell them, not ask them, to leave. At that point they have a choice. Live or die. That goes for LE on your property without warrant, too.
Thankfully, the current armed encounter incident did not involve the use of deadly force.
In your 'live or die' example, would you expect there to be no investigation into the matter?
AMENDMENT IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
I'm attempting to clarify what I said in an earlier post: "A citizen's use of deadly force is subject to the requirements of equal protection & due process."
AMENDMENT V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
AMENDMENT XIV
SECTION 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Please clarify what you mean by quoting the 9th Amendment.
Editor note: A previous version of this story suggested all charges were dropped against the couple. That is not yet formally the case. The Missouri AG is still seeking to dismiss the case. We’ll be sure to keep you updated on this breaking story as new details become available.
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The MO AG has been clear he wants to drop the charges...the question is can the AG do that. And then there may be litigation over it.
So wait a while. It will of course make little difference in my position. I have held right along it is improbable that a MO jury would convict. Be interesting though to see the vote.
Attorney for Mark & Patricia McCloskey files motion to disqualify Gardner, her office from pursuing case
...Patricia and Mark McCloskey are each facing one count of Unlawful Use of a Weapon – Flourishing. The charges stem from a June 28 incident where they were seen pointing guns at protesters who were marching outside of their home on Portland Place heading to St. Louis Mayor Lyda Krewson’s home.
They are scheduled for a first appearance in court August 31st. A hearing date for the Motion to Disqualify has not yet been set.
Further, the AG intervening and dismissing charges - if it happens, is not indicative of a lack of guilt. Surely you've been involved in cases where people were guilty and charges were declined in some form or fashion, right?
Perhaps seek a better news source?
Overall, we rate Citizen Free Press Right Biased for story selection and Mixed for factual reporting due to use of some poor sources and a complete lack of transparency.
Further, the AG intervening and dismissing charges - if it happens, is not indicative of a lack of guilt. Surely you've been involved in cases where people were guilty and charges were declined in some form or fashion, right?
Perhaps seek a better news source?
Overall, we rate Citizen Free Press Right Biased for story selection and Mixed for factual reporting due to use of some poor sources and a complete lack of transparency.
Please note: pun intended.
Lots of 'jumping the gun' around this armed encounter incident.
Lots of 'jumping the gun' around this armed encounter incident.
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