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If that group was that violent with murderous intentions, those two would not have survived going out there guns or not. So it was stupid. It reminds me of the fantasy that some people have that they can self protect individually in a total societal breakdown if they prep. It doesn't work that way unless you also have a fully armed large group and even then the aggressor group might get better weapons.
That group did not expect those two to use the guns, they know they have too much to lose and they know they didn't do anything worse than trespassing on a private road.
I guess the McCloskey's succeeded in protecting themselves and their property didn't they? How do you know what that mobs intentions were? Were you there to ask them? The McCloskey's didn't either, they were forced to take whatever steps necessary to protect themselves and their property. Fortunately they were armed. Obviously the mob didn't expect to be confronted by two armed individuals. God only knows what they may have done if they weren't confronted by them.
If you were in a mob of let's say 100 people and someone was holding a semi automatic rifle against the mob. Would you be the first one to step forward and advance them?
I should have been more specific. Violence has accompanied recent protests in St. Louis, which I thought would be understood, since we are discussing St. Louis.
"Violence has accompanied recent protests in St. Louis," AND D.C., NYC, AND several other dem run cities.
This whole issue has become quite surreal. I never thought I’d see a time where it would become mainstream to excuse a criminal mob while at the same time excoriating, as well as trying to criminally charge, law abiding citizens for taking steps to defend themselves and their property against the mob.
It’s like some crazy virtue signaling run amok. Too bad it isn’t understood that it’s simply akin to appeasing the Lion, in hopes that he eats you last.
Unfortunately that's where we're at in this country. We've just got to hope and pray that someday these self proclaimed social justice warriors find themselves in that same situation. Inviting the mob in to discuss their intentions over a cup of latte certainly isn't going to work. Once you appease the mob they'll only demand more. Right from the beginning they should have brought out the water cannons like they used to do. Instead these Democrat mayors and city council members handed the keys to the city over to the mob.
It's getting to the point in this country that those who work hard and play by the rules are the one's who end up getting screwed. I just hope to Christ this serves as a wake up call that we're not gonna' stand for this anymore and vote against every Democrat that's on the ballot come November. However there's no hope left for America's major cities most of which have been under the Democrat's control for decades. What we're witnessing now is the Democrat's plan for the entire country. May God help us all.
I guess the McCloskey's succeeded in protecting themselves and their property didn't they? How do you know what that mobs intentions were? Were you there to ask them? The McCloskey's didn't either, they were forced to take whatever steps necessary to protect themselves and their property. Fortunately they were armed. Obviously the mob didn't expect to be confronted by two armed individuals. God only knows what they may have done if they weren't confronted by them.
If you were in a mob of let's say 100 people and someone was holding a semi automatic rifle against the mob. Would you be the first one to step forward and advance them?
Right, the group of supposedly, hundreds of violent killers and arsonists was so scared of the barefoot old man in the pink shirt and dockers and the goofy blonde waving the silver pistol at pink shirt.
They didn't save anything. The group didn't turn back and leave in fear, they stopped, yelled back and kept walking further into the forbidden zone, to go where they were going.
The McCloskeys are nuts and possibly sociopaths. Their history of doing sleazy skeevy things for petty reasons and behaving like entitled tyrants is legend.
Right, the group of supposedly, hundreds of violent killers and arsonists was so scared of the barefoot old man in the pink shirt and dockers and the goofy blonde waving the silver pistol at pink shirt.
They didn't save anything. The group didn't turn back and leave in fear, they stopped, yelled back and kept walking further into the forbidden zone, to go where they were going.
The McCloskeys are nuts and possibly sociopaths. Their history of doing sleazy skeevy things for petty reasons and behaving like entitled tyrants is legend.
Like it or not the bottom line is that the McCloskey's came out of this alive with their home and property intact. I'd say that they saved something. Regardless of what your misguided opinions are. You certainly know an awful lot for an individual that was not even there? Has anyone called you as a material witness since you know so much? What concrete proof do you have to back up your claims other than what the media allowed you to see and hear on the news?
What are you now a psychiatrist that can make a determination of whether someone is nuts and possibly a sociopath or not without even examining them? I hope that happens to you some day, you deserve it. Even if these people did "sleazy skeevy things for petty reasons" as you claim. What they may have done in the past has no relevance to the situation they found themselves in. If you were promiscuous when you were young and later on raped. Would it be fair to use that against you and let the rapist walk free?
We still have this little thing called "due process of law". Where a court of law will determine whether someone is guilty or not. It's there to protect people from people like you who make accusations about people that they don't even know. Or from people who make claims based on the opinions of others. Which is exactly what you have done. Unless of course you personally know the McCloskey's, witnessed their behavior, have irrefutable proof and filed charges against them. Which I seriously doubt that you do.
But you still can't answer my simple yes or no question: "How do you know what that mobs intentions were? Were you there to ask them?"
Last edited by Ex New Yorker; 07-20-2020 at 03:23 PM..
Well the shoe finally dropped. My projection is and remains that the pair will not be convicted though the majority of the jury will vote to convict. One or two holdouts will prevent a guilty verdict.
Then we will have the fun times as to whether to try them again...
And to all the experts on the law here note how many of the protesters have been charged with trespass. So it appears many of you are not nearly as knowledgeable as you think you are...
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