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Old 07-13-2020, 11:08 PM
 
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Exactly. I don’t condone the smearing but these blank life matters are obvious attempts to hijack and poke BLM.

Some of the same people who are outraged in this thread are always in other threads celebrating Black death.
No it's not. Read below.

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I'm giving her the benefit of doubt that her intentions were pure, but in this climate using that hashtag is like using #whitepower. Regardless of what your intent is, using a provocative # is going to come with repercussions. and just because your intent is pure, doesn't mean the repercussions are invalid. It doesn't mean that there's not illegitimate gripe behind the people who would be offended.

And if you believe ALM is a legitimate cry for equality, why would you oppose BLM? From the get-go, their platform was always about equality. At no point have they ever said that black people deserve more, or deserve extra benefits that could be construed as black supremacy.

The challenge to BLM would be like saying the NAACP is racist because we should be about the advancement of all people. Would you challenge the NAACP is being a racist organization, based on their name? So why would you do that for BLM?
What you don't (or won't) understand is that saying "all lives matter" is not said with the intent to discredit the slogan BLM or what it stands for. Not one single bit. It is often said by those that are passionate about every life on this earth. They are not singling out any group or race. They hold no malice toward anyone. They are fervent in their belief that every person is important and that each life matters.

Every single person is important. Every single life matters. What doesn't matter is their socioeconomic status. What doesn't matter is their sex. What doesn't matter is their sexual identity. What doesn't matter is their educational level. What doesn't matter is their race. People matter no matter what. Those of us that have no prejudices understand that. My life matters, so does yours.

The fact that some say "blue lives matter" is addressing the injustices that have been perpetrated toward those that wear a badge. It's the same thing as those that say "black lives matter." There have been attacks on blue lives, as well as black lives, that are unwarranted. In 2020 thus far there have been at least 20 cops killed in an attack on them. In contrast there have been two blacks killed by cops. (this is not addressing the lives lost to senseless killings not at the hands of cops) All these killing were horrendous. Their lives were taken senselessly. ALL of their lives mattered.

The division needs to stop. All lives matter, no matter what.
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Old 07-13-2020, 11:14 PM
 
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Where do I say she needs to be White? In fact, her not being White would make my scenario better bc it perfectly insulates her from claims she used it in its traditional racist context. So again, if a non-White person used #Whitepower in a completely innocent way, would that be acceptable, even if she was grieving?
The fact that you equate #whitepower (which is clearly a racist statement) with #alllivematter (which is all inclusive) says more about your need to racially profile people and divide them.

Just stop with this faux outrage that keep us divided.
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Old 07-13-2020, 11:14 PM
 
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No it's not. Read below.



What you don't (or won't) understand is that saying "all lives matter" is not said with the intent to discredit the slogan BLM or what it stands for. Not one single bit. It is often said by those that are passionate about every life on this earth. They are not singling out any group or race. They hold no malice toward anyone. They are fervent in their belief that every person is important and that each life matters.

Every single person is important. Every single life matters. What doesn't matter is their socioeconomic status. What doesn't matter is their sex. What doesn't matter is their sexual identity. What doesn't matter is their educational level. What doesn't matter is their race. People matter no matter what. Those of us that have no prejudices understand that. My life matters, so does yours.

The fact that some say "blue lives matter" is addressing the injustices that have been perpetrated toward those that wear a badge. It's the same thing as those that say "black lives matter." There have been attacks on blue lives, as well as black lives, that are unwarranted. In 2020 thus far there have been at least 20 cops killed in an attack on them. In contrast there have been two blacks killed by cops. (this is not addressing the lives lost to senseless killings not at the hands of cops) All these killing were horrendous. Their lives were taken senselessly. ALL of their lives mattered.

The division needs to stop. All lives matter, no matter what.
I agree and it's a sad world we're living in where this obviousness has to be spelled out.
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Old 07-14-2020, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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No it's not. Read below.



What you don't (or won't) understand is that saying "all lives matter" is not said with the intent to discredit the slogan BLM or what it stands for. Not one single bit. It is often said by those that are passionate about every life on this earth. They are not singling out any group or race. They hold no malice toward anyone. They are fervent in their belief that every person is important and that each life matters.

Every single person is important. Every single life matters. What doesn't matter is their socioeconomic status. What doesn't matter is their sex. What doesn't matter is their sexual identity. What doesn't matter is their educational level. What doesn't matter is their race. People matter no matter what. Those of us that have no prejudices understand that. My life matters, so does yours.

The fact that some say "blue lives matter" is addressing the injustices that have been perpetrated toward those that wear a badge. It's the same thing as those that say "black lives matter." There have been attacks on blue lives, as well as black lives, that are unwarranted. In 2020 thus far there have been at least 20 cops killed in an attack on them. In contrast there have been two blacks killed by cops. (this is not addressing the lives lost to senseless killings not at the hands of cops) All these killing were horrendous. Their lives were taken senselessly. ALL of their lives mattered.

The division needs to stop. All lives matter, no matter what.
Lol.... What a load. You can go on your soapbox and try to preach the starry heights that the clowns chanting ALM are reaching for and we'll know you're completely full of it for one simple reason: name ONE non-White person / non-police officer ALM has rallied for.


All this praise that they stand for what's right, are passionate about life, value the preciousness , regardless of who they are... Name ONE person that they've rallied for.

And don't try to use the child victims that were carted out like hand grenades to lob at BLM and then promptly dropped from the radar.

Actually... don't even bother trying to name anyone. You can't. Bc that entire movement was started as a backlash to an actual movement based on looking out for people. Not a circle jerk, racial angst party whose only motivation is giving people too cowardly to admit it the cover they need to tear down a Black org.

ALM to anyone watching is a modern day citizens council. They too claimed that they were about a higher purpose, but in reality were the racist backlash to civil rights groups organizing. Something about a 95% white group that only pops up to yell at Black people protesting for equality seriously derails the message that they have a higher purpose based on equality and respect...

So again before got even think of replying.... NAME. ONE. PERSON. Bc I can name 20 people that ALM has never done a thing.

I'll deal with the Blue Lives Matter issue separately.

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Old 07-14-2020, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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The fact that you equate #whitepower (which is clearly a racist statement) with #alllivematter (which is all inclusive) says more about your need to racially profile people and divide them.

Just stop with this faux outrage that keep us divided.
Lol... The explanation that WP would be insulated from the racism charge is clearly explained in that post and you still resort to making a strawman argument. Re-do your argument and I'll address it.

You're not the only person dropping the ball on this. I've put this to several posters already and there's a reason no one's working through this thought exercise.

Bc it becomes abundantly clear what happened and YOUR faux outrage is revealed.
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Old 07-14-2020, 01:23 AM
 
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name ONE non-White person / non-police officer ALM has rallied for.

Actually... don't even bother trying to name anyone. You can't.
You know that this thread is about a hispanic police officer that got shot and killed?

And why do you want to exclude police officers? Aren't they part of "all lives"?
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Old 07-14-2020, 01:27 AM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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So should sick freak rightist users who give convicted felons a pass and a Thanks for their protection.
Who was the convicted felon who was thanked for their protection?
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Old 07-14-2020, 01:27 AM
 
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You know that this thread is about a hispanic police officer that got shot and killed?
Yep. Now name the non-White, non-police officer that ALM has rallied for since as Ibginnie stated,

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They are fervent in their belief that every person is important and that each life matters.
Police are left out bc the counter movement was created to excuse cops killing Black people. ALM defending cops is part of their dna.
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Old 07-14-2020, 01:39 AM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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No. We're going to stay on the thing you brought into this discussion... smearing people in the middle of their grief when they decide to show their support for a cause.

You tried to use this girl to shame people who oppose her using a #hashtag, when people like you have been doing that NON-STOP for years everytime someone uses #BLM to protest an unjust murder.

Explain your double standard.
BLM is a marxist, extremist, divisive group that hates America, hates capitalism, hates cops, hates law and order, wants reparations, wants to do away with the nuclear family, wants to abolish prisons.
black lives matter (a statement...not the organization), is fine, as is All Lives Matter because it is inclusive of black people. Blue Lives Matter came about as a slogan, not an organization, in response to the police killings that were commonly happening. Esp Dallas.
All lives DO matter.
But BLM needs to be deemed a terror group and disbanded. If nothing else, it is a fraud, since it just takes donations for the dem party pretending they are going to help black people.
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Old 07-14-2020, 02:19 AM
 
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Police are left out bc the counter movement was created to excuse cops killing Black people. ALM defending cops is part of their dna.
It's getting hard to keep up. Do black cops lives matter?
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