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Old 07-14-2020, 08:43 AM
 
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Trump’s deliberate intent was to undermine every source of authority and expertise in society that could serve as an impediment to him attaining total control of every aspect of government. His only goal during this crisis is re-election. A complete autocracy of Trump’s making...with a little help from his comrades.
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Old 07-14-2020, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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So, it's my time to waste.
It's not your time; it's everyone's time. We're all paying for this horrifically botched response to a public health crisis, to the point where COVID-19 could become a public health disaster.

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President Trump understood early the need for decisive measures such as travel restrictions on China, which he imposed in January.
Yet for that sensible decision — in defiance of the World Health Organization — he was criticized by Democrats such as Joe Biden as xenophobic, and by China as racist.
Trump did not take a "decisive measure" with travel restrictions, because his restrictions applied only to Chinese nationals, and not to the thousands of U.S. citizens and legal residents, and people of other nationalities, traveling from China to the U.S. They were free to enter without being required to quarantine. He thought only Chinese nationals were contagious.

Plus he ignored Europe, where the virus was raging equally; when he did impose travel restrictions on Europe, it was on specific nations only. And again, thousands of U.S. residents came back from Italy, etc., bringing the virus with them.

The first known case in my county was a guy who had been traveling to Egypt. Whoops! No travel restrictions on Africa or the Middle East.

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At the end of the day, I have lost all trust in our medical system because guys like Fauci, the CDC, and others don't seem like they know what they're doing. How can they effectively advise the president when they keep changing their mind every two weeks?
Perhaps you're unaware of how the scientific method works? Might I suggest a Google search?
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Old 07-14-2020, 08:49 AM
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The CDC has made multiple errors, hasn't Trump too though?
Name Trump's errors.

I'm sure you would name a lot, some of which are his, but most are the fault of Democratic governors or bad advice from the "experts."
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Old 07-14-2020, 08:49 AM
 
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Trump's people are attacking Fauci. It's simple. He is more trusted then Trump. Heck, most people are more trustworthy then Trump. He has climbed over 20K lies in 3 years.

Trump has posted and spoken more false information about the virus then anyone.
Trump hasn't said anything that Fauci hadn't already said:

Fauci Interview
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Old 07-14-2020, 08:50 AM
 
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T has known, for example, about masks for weeks and not until this past week would wear one. He had the rally in the Dakotas, what, a few weeks ago. He promoted a medicine that had no studies behind it for covid. He has no understanding of public health and if he does discredits it to make himself the total Czar, power tripper.
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Name Trump's errors.

I'm sure you would name a lot, some of which are his, but most are the fault of Democratic governors or bad advice from the "experts."
Trump's errors with dealing with Covid?

1. Navarro warned Trump in January that this was going to be serious.
Trump's response? There are 15 cases and it will soon be down to one.
2. Our Intel community was ringing red alarm bells in January.
Trump's response? More happy talks and out right lies. P.D.B. ? How convenient to forget to read them.
Especially when there are more than one dozen warnings in those daily briefings.
3. Refusing to use the W.H.O.'s Covid test used around the world in favor of our now weakened CDC's failed test.
4.Remember Peter Urbanowicz? You know the one that had decades of public health experience that was replaced by the labradoodle yes man instead. What happens when you lose "all the best people" and replace them with swamp cronies with no experience in public health? Harrison was Azar's chief of staff. You remember Azar. The lobbyist lawyer appointed to be HHS secretary that resigned because of his travel corruption scandal. Harrison took his place. All the best people right.

Reuters: "Special Report: Former Labradoodle breeder was tapped to lead U.S. pandemic task force."
5. Trump's lies. The CDC said in February that there would be severe disruption to our daily lives. Trump is in India lying that we have it totally under control. That CDC employee is eventually fired for telling the truth. You know, flu kills 25,000 - 69,000 people a year. It's just the flu right. It's a Democrat hoax. It's the Wuhan flu. Spin and lie. That's what he does best.

While the CDC is telling us to prepare, Trump is saying that everything is fine. Yep, Pelosi said the same thing. Fauci said there was no risk, but right wing media leaves out the tail end of that quote when he says. but that could change.

6. Trump is now trying to circumvent the CDC by having hospitals report Covid numbers directly to his yes men. He's going to try and spin and suppress the bad news, especially since it's spreading like wild fire in his precious red states. It certainly looks bad for his re-election doesn't it. I mean you can't have the Covidiot rubes believing that it's a hoax and not serious one minute and have an out of control wild fire because the Republican governors tied their inept response to Trump's rhetoric. You must hide the death totals and hospitalizations. You must stop testing and pretend that everything is okay with more happy talk and lies. You must also hold ego boosting super spreader Covid rallies and have the rubes sign a waiver that they won't sue you if they get sick and die. That all works right? The senators aren't going to do anything about it. Trump can kill whomever he wants in America. He's the new Jim Jones, only way more deadly.

Yeah, you go ahead and drink the koolaid and point fingers instead of placing the blame on Trump for this nightmare we're all living. The buck stops with him and his very stable genius highly intuitive gut. Don't believe anything you read or see. Just believe me. What flavor koolaid do you want today? Orange?
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Four Former Directors of the CDC Accuse Trump of Undermining Public Health in the USA
He is doing everything in his power to undermine public health, and his smear campaign against Fauci proves it beyond any shadow of doubt.
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