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Old 07-14-2020, 06:48 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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what's garbage is not reading the article...see it was actually a FOX affiliate in Orlando that busted them
those three letters are guaranteed to send them shrieking and gibbering almost instantly.
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:53 PM
 
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That is a percentage of the testing population and really, nobody even pays attention to it. People pay attention to the positive rate relative to the total population. Has that changed? That is important to know.
there's a big different between a positive "rate" of 4%.....and 20%

projections are made on those numbers....how we are told to act is based on those numbers

..when the percentage of people positive increases...schools, jobs, bars, etc are shut down
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:53 PM
 
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No, the numbers were inflated by the Florida Department of Health....they admitted knowing the labs were reporting positives and not reporting negatives...and the FDH went on and included them in the random test results....that skewed the numbers

no....it changes the percentage results of people tested extremely....from 3-4%...to 12-20%
..total population infection is an estimate based on that
Go to the fox news article. Scroll down a bit. you will find the pdf of the data. It doesnt change the % like you claim, not even close. lab24 is lab with 100% positives, with the most tests.....and they did...457 that were positive. That doesn't even put them in the first page of labs. Orlando health did a 98% positive with 522 tests.

If we look at the big boys that did the vast majority? Quest diagnostics? 540,000 tests, 11% positive. Laboratory corp of america? 455K tests, 12% positive. bio reference 360K tests 13% positive. Genetworx 262K tests and 7% positive.

Your claims that its 3% are utter nonsense. The data even in the best of lights say so.

Folks, the actual data is there. Before you try making up nonsense like this, maybe you should look at the real facts.
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:55 PM
 
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who knows.....the FDH has screwed it up so bad..and there's no way for a do over

85% of the lab results came back 3-4% positive

..the rest are all so screwed up no one will even know

85% state wide or just Orlando Health and the VA, I don't see that a small amount of errors would change the rate that drastically.
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:58 PM
 
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I even put the link to the pdf in my post....just for you

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Go to the fox news article. Scroll down a bit. you will find the pdf of the data. It doesnt change the % like you claim, not even close. lab24 is lab with 100% positives, with the most tests.....and they did...457 that were positive. That doesn't even put them in the first page of labs. Orlando health did a 98% positive with 522 tests.

If we look at the big boys that did the vast majority? Quest diagnostics? 540,000 tests, 11% positive. Laboratory corp of america? 455K tests, 12% positive. bio reference 360K tests 13% positive. Genetworx 262K tests and 7% positive.

Your claims that its 3% are utter nonsense. The data even in the best of lights say so.

Folks, the actual data is there. Before you try making up nonsense like this, maybe you should look at the real facts.
...try again..Data through Jul 9, 2020 verified as of Jul 10, 2020

I'm working with this pdf data...because it's the one that lines up with the FDH reporting sky high positive rates

.and this is when the FDH admitted they knew what was going on...and didn't tell anyone

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really?............ http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...ogy_latest.pdf

The Florida Department of Health is recording a total of 300,691 total tests...

..but ~85% of all tests....249,669 tests...were performed by just 2 labs...the top 2

Those 2 labs show 2.8% and 4.1% of all tests were positive...that's 85% of all the tests done were about 3-4% positive

yet...the Florida Department of Health says the rate is anywhere from 12% to 20% positive

How does the FDH get from 3-4%......to 12-20%?

..there's no other way than counting all those 40%...60%.....90%.....100%

The first two labs are really doing random testing.....the rest are not

(3-4% positive....means 96-97% negative)

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It makes a huge difference....saying the population is 3-4% positive.....and saying the population is 12-20% positive

....rules of how we can act are based on those numbers
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Old 07-14-2020, 06:59 PM
 
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Given that there are no republican run labs or science anything in large part, you're probably correct.
Yes, Republicans seem to not want to learn and accept "that hifalutin' sciencey stuff".
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Old 07-14-2020, 07:01 PM
 
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Get back to us when ICU rate in Florida hospitals are not near full in many places.
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Old 07-14-2020, 07:04 PM
 
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85% state wide or just Orlando Health and the VA, I don't see that a small amount of errors would change the rate that drastically.

Orlando medical center has done 36K tests, and has a 10% positive rate. Im not sure who does the VA ones. BTW that 10% is a overall number. As in 1% of them could have been positive at the start of the pandemic, but then 20% are positive now. So keep in mind thats a average from the start.
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Old 07-14-2020, 07:07 PM
 
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Orlando medical center has done 36K tests, and has a 10% positive rate. Im not sure who does the VA ones. BTW that 10% is a overall number. As in 1% of them could have been positive at the start of the pandemic, but then 20% are positive now. So keep in mind thats a average from the start.
that's why I'm using the current pdf numbers
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Old 07-14-2020, 07:14 PM
 
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I even put the link to the pdf in my post....just for you



...try again..Data through Jul 9, 2020 verified as of Jul 10, 2020

I'm working with this pdf data...because it's the one that lines up with the FDH reporting sky high positive rates

.and this is when the FDH admitted they knew what was going on...and didn't tell anyone
Ah thats convenient, mind had all the data from the start, yours has...a weeks worth from half a week ago. (Which sounds bad-but isnt, its more up to date without a lot of older data) Lets take a look!


So..your argument is that the data from half a week ago, covering the prior week is wrong because it doesnt show the 3% rate you think it should and you claim it says what? 20%?


*checks YOUR link. Nope it says 4.08% positive rates.


And still nonsense. The first abnormally high positive rate occurs at (and this I find either really weird or a company with 2 names for itself I bet)....American lab associates with 31 positive, and 3 negative. for 34 cases. Vs;s places like quest diagnostics with 172,684 tests.


Yeah im sure those 31 cases made a huge difference compared to the 7,113 positive, and 165,567 negative from Quest diagnostics. (They didnt)


PS-if by most current you mean from 4 days ago covering the prior week......sure.
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