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Old 07-15-2020, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Reminds me of the Panic promoters claiming 200 Million Americans were gonna DIE !
These Leftists go to bed every night with dreams of Panic in the streets & then wake in the morning with new schemes to try and make their dreams come true.

It gets OLD. Too many lies, that’s why Normal People don’t buy this constant Panic & Chaos.
138K in 5 months-- how many do you need? your entire family? all the neighbors?

 
Old 07-15-2020, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Perhaps this was our fate, but only because we have a president busy sowing chaos and doubt in the minds of citizens regarding the virus. How can you ever hope to achieve a unified front when the leader of your country is scheming to divide us up as best he can, and by lying about the very institutions and ppl we are supposed to trust like the cdc, our doctors, scientists, and intelligence agencies?
Partisan politics isn't something Trump invented. He plays the game well, but it's an old game. I have a healthy amount of distrust of the CDC, doctors, and intelligence agencies. I have an even more healthy respect for Trump. That's some earned and he's done the opposite. When Fauci was downplaying masks because of the PPE shortage, I was wearing my N95. I get why he said what he did, but i had a perfectly good box of N95 masks sitting in my garage. I even about ten of them out and called up Kaiser to see if they wanted them. They didn't want open boxes.

Of course I figured ten masks was more than I needed because how long could it take to make some masks? Particularly when there's high case loads, hospitals burn through those mask like a fat kid in a candy store, but it's a mask. It shouldn't be that much harder than figure out how to put some cotton on a stick, right? Stuff like that is where having some actual leadership at the federal level might have helped rather than because Trump got in a dick wagging contest about some ventilators Ford was already going to make but he had to have the last word and tell them they need to make fewer ventilators at a slower pace or because he wanted his pork chops.

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Old 07-15-2020, 07:42 AM
 
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Once the billionaires are gone, then it's the millionaires, then it's property owners, then it's homeowners, then it's somebody with more in the bank than a social security check, LOL.
They are billionaires because of the handouts.
 
Old 07-15-2020, 07:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Rich people are upset that they have to pay their fair share, and not have their taxes subsidised by lower-income taxpayers in other states.
Taxes are for the little people.
Leona Helmsley
 
Old 07-15-2020, 07:49 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The USA is a country heavy with socialism for the rich and mostly bootstrap capitalism for everyone else. The stock market is not where it is on its own merits but because of welfare checks in the trillions from the government. None of that helps the majority of Americans.
Totally false. Tens of millions (if not more) American workers and retirees have, in aggregate,at least $29.1 trillion worth of investments in their pension funds (both public and private) and/or various flavors of retirement accounts. Any increase in investment values helps tens of millions of American workers and retirees.

https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/d...downward-trend
 
Old 07-15-2020, 07:50 AM
 
Location: The Ozone Layer, apparently...
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Originally Posted by Good Red Road View Post
No worries,
Ivanka to the rescue with her “Find something New Campaign”.
Just forget about the 6 figure salary you’ve earned for the past 20 years, those jobs are gone.
Re-tool and earn half as much. Yeah!.
https://youtu.be/nv-FhNB-3tA
You know, its so easy to be critical...

I work with people who had been learning everything they could about A.I. "to try to stay relevant". She's not wrong. The axis of the workforce was changing long before the pandemic's impact.

If someone has had a 6 figure salary for the past 20 years, how is it they are not ready for their early retirement?
 
Old 07-15-2020, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Totally false. Tens of millions (if not more) American workers and retirees have, in aggregate,at least $29.1 trillion worth of investments in their pension funds (both public and private) and/or various flavors of retirement accounts. Any increase in investment values helps tens of millions of American workers and retirees.

https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/d...downward-trend
Sure. That's the "middle-class." It's just that the top 2% have more wealth than the middle-class.

It benefits the middle-class. On the other hand, deficits mean tax dollars are used to service that debt. You know where the federal government gets most of its revenue? Personal income taxes. There's a lot more middle-class than the top 2%. They're the governments cash cow. They make up what they lack in wealth and high incomes in numbers.
 
Old 07-15-2020, 07:59 AM
 
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Totally false. Tens of millions (if not more) American workers and retirees have, in aggregate,at least $29.1 trillion worth of investments in their pension funds (both public and private) and/or various flavors of retirement accounts. Any increase in investment values helps tens of millions of American workers and retirees.

https://www.napa-net.org/news-info/d...downward-trend
Less than 10% own 84% of the stock market and less than 1% own 50% of the stock market.
Those are the intended recipients.
Any trickle down to others is an unintended consequence and a side effect.



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/08/b...s-economy.html

We All Have a Stake in the Stock Market, Right? Guess Again

A whopping 84 percent of all stocks owned by Americans belong to the wealthiest 10 percent of households. And that includes everyone’s stakes in pension plans, 401(k)’s and individual retirement accounts, as well as trust funds, mutual funds and college savings programs like 529 plans.


https://financialpost.com/investing/...tock-ownership
How America’s 1% came to dominate stock ownership
 
Old 07-15-2020, 07:59 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Taxes are for the little people.
Leona Helmsley
Maybe you can answer the question... WHY do Biden and the Dems want to reinstate the formerly unlimited SALT deduction instead of keeping the $10,000 deduction limit (which causes the rich to pay more in Federal Income Tax)?
 
Old 07-15-2020, 08:01 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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I just bought a cheap plot of rural land. So worst case for me is living in a tent on land I own. Wish it were easier for non rich to get land financing, it is a very good safety net to have.
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