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I do know Ancient Egyptians had indoor plumbing, and I believe the Chinese came up with modern math concepts.
I don't know what the world would look like right now, with no caucasians.
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Yes. The scientific method is white, as a way to interpret the world around us.
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Cause and effect isn't the same thing as the Scientific Method of discerning truth.
Cause and effect is observable. Every mammal uses cause and effect to navigate the world.
The Scientific Method isn't observable to most people, and I think EVERYONE will acknowledge that sometimes "studies" using the scientific method get it terribly wrong.
Sometimes, observational intelligence is very valuable, and correct, although it doesn't rely on graphs and replication.
Not to hijack this thread but I wanted to address this:
Aegean and Egyptian societies had functional knowledge of poisons and medicines, probably from trial and error-type experiments. Egyptian papyrus scrolls written 1000-1500 years B.C. included significant knowledge of anatomy and medicine that could only have come from trial-and-error type experiments.
Ancient Greeks advanced mathematics significantly. They did not have the Scientific Method as we know it, but had concepts of what they called 'natural philosophy', which was the integration of science (as existing knowledge) with philosophy. Therefore, while they didn't have the experimentation piece, much of what they understood was established by deductive reasoning.
When Ancient Greece fell, and Rome fell, and Europe fell into the Dark Ages, much of the knowledge from Ancient Greece was adopted and perpetuated by Muslim scientists during the height of the Islamic Empire. This includes the foundation of the Scientific Method. Muslim scientists also made many contributions to mathematics, medicine and astronomy.
To be clear, it was Muslim scientists (see Al-Hazen) who structured the Scientific Method as we understand it today.
Once the Renaissance occurred and scientific endeavors were awakened in Europe again, the textbook Scientific Method was established, but it is not solely European and it is not "White".
In truth, the Scientific Method is not white, brown, black, Muslim, or Asian. It is a structured, step-by-step process of discovery through structured experiment, and is the evolution of a very natural process of questioning and testing, something that everyone does every day with menial tasks in every culture, we just don't realize it (and that was attributed to mammals in the quoted post).
That section on Family Structure is just something they pulled out of their butt. The rest is what any good parent would teach their children. I suppose the little display proves why some cultures are successful and others just continue to circle the drain. Pitiful.
"Aspects and Assumptions..." and "Who came up with this list?"
Which are aspects, and which are assumptions?
Was there any type of poll or research done? Or, these are just a bunch of assumptions, that perhaps a Black (majority?) staff at the MAAHC cobbled together?
Actually, it appears to come straight from a 1990 compilation of one Judith H Katz. Yes, 30 years old.
Ahhhh, the "tranquillo" lifestyle. Don't plan or prepare. It will all work out. Yolo and all that.
Plenty of stupid white hippies, living in run down vans down in Slab City, wishing they had made better life decisions for sure. Protestant work ethic = Whiteness, lol.
Maybe a few aren't wishing for anything different than what they've got.
It almost sounds like the kind of thing teenagers would come up with to complain about their parents. What do you mean work before play? Why are you saying I didn't work hard enough if I don't succeed? Why would I want autonomy?
It's ridiculous. Thinking these are bad things has a negative impact on people of any race, which is why it sounds so typical of white liberals who create this kind of nonsense which ultimately harms the black community.
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It almost sounds like the kind of thing teenagers would come up with to complain about their parents. What do you mean work before play? Why are you saying I didn't work hard enough if I don't succeed? Why would I want autonomy?
It's ridiculous. Thinking these are bad things has a negative impact on people of any race, which is why it sounds so typical of white liberals who create this kind of nonsense which ultimately harms the black community.
I don't know if you meant that literally, and if you didn't, then ignore the rest of my response.
I didn't teach work before play. I taught you need to get your work done, and you decide whether to play first or work first. I realize a lot of parents didn't handle it that way - when the kids came home from school, it was snack time with homework and then you're free to do what you'd like to.
I saw it differently. You need to get your homework done sometime before you go to bed, so arrange your time the way you'd want. Often, they'd want to toss their backpack on the table and run to meet their friends outside, and that was absolutely 100% fine. The homework would still need to be done, but later.
Or I'd say "sometime today you need to clean your room". If they were in the middle of watching a movie they wanted to see, ok, that's fine. Arrange your time accordingly.
I do realize there were parents who literally taught that you need to finish all your tasks before you relax, but that's not universal. Just as it isn't universal that you need to eat everything on your plate.
Maybe a few aren't wishing for anything different than what they've got.
Ok, then....but you can’t say all choices are just as admirable as any others. Let’s say, for example, you have two people, both raised in poor families on government assistance, and one of them chooses to just put in minimal effort in school, content with staying on government assistance when she’s an adult and never being self-sufficient.
The other person wants to move off of taxpayer-provided support, applies herself fully in school, and then goes on to community college and ultimately becomes self-supporting.
Are you really saying that the first choice is just as admirable as the second? If so, that’s a big part of the problem.
The museum is beautiful and I loved visiting it. I especially love the decorative filigree exterior. Thanks for the link. It is a very thoughtful, respectful approach to starting discussions about race and assumptions. Wonderful job.
Its extraordinarily racist. The people who designed it should be fired immediately for their unbelievably open racism against Black Americans.
Exactly. It's the exact same things that a white supremacist would say about blacks and other non-whites.
It's incredible that this stuff is taken seriously. There are many immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean who do embody the values that the museum denigrates.
I don't even know if a white supremacist would be this bad.
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