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Old 07-16-2020, 01:48 PM
 
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https://www.voanews.com/usa/four-ext...otest-violence
https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...aloo-movement/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wh...ts/ar-BB158ADD
https://www.kansascity.com/news/loca...243553662.html
https://hillreporter.com/men-tied-to...ocktails-70115
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-06-0...xmg/index.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeik.../#80f599141009
https://www.blackenterprise.com/righ...t-a-civil-war/
https://www.bet.com/news/national/20...havoc-in-.html
https://www.mic.com/p/over-60-people...e-may-29075259
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/three...ot-protesters/
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/lea...t-at-protests/

It happened outside the US too: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/13/europ...ntl/index.html

I have no idea if you're going to accept any of these sources. I tried to find a mix of them, but there are a lot more. There are also plenty of Youtube videos showing random white guys smashing things and others trying to stop them, as well as interviews with some of the members of right-wing groups talking about what they're doing.

Now, I'm not saying all the violence was from them, but it definitely seems to have been a factor in escalating the situation in many cities. You also are just going to have an element of people who take advantage of this type of situation who are not necessarily associated with the protests at all.
I opened the first story and it mentions "unconfirmed" statements issued by the Minnesota governor. Which only helps to further discredit the Democrat party, in my eyes.
I'm not going to bother to read any more after that.
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Old 07-16-2020, 01:49 PM
 
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Southern culture is part of the history and culture of America.


Just because you don't think so doesn't mean that everyone agrees with you.....or will be shamed or bullied into agreeing with you.


There's a lot more to Southern culture and heritage than the civil war and slavery.

Sorry, not sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative.
I own a confederate flag and belt buckle and display them both because of all this banning and tearing down by these clowns. I called to order another confederate flag from a company that makes them in Alabama and wait time is almost a month.

Wasn’t interested in the confederacy until Amazon starting banning products a few years ago. I’m all now. Anything these clowns ban or tear down I promote. Other than that BLM statue that was torn down in the UK recently. :-)
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Old 07-16-2020, 01:54 PM
 
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As I don't think you're a real person- or at least not the person you claim to be- why should I waste my time? It's not going to make any difference, is it? Even on the very off chance you are who you say you are, the fact that you so easily have bought into every bit of Republican propaganda suggests I'm not going to have any influence either way.

Am I wrong?
It's funny.. You accuse me of being someone I am not while you refuse to defend the accusations you've made. You are just content to snipe from the sidelines, make drive-by snide remarks and move on without ever backing up what you say. But apparently I am the imposter.

I have absolutely no idea what difference it makes as to who I am unless you want to engage in some kind of ad hominem attack and you are looking for an angle to do that. I think if you were able to paint me as a republican, you'd have an easier time of it and that is where you are getting frustrated. I'm asking to you engage in ideas. Again, which of the points in the OP was I wrong about? Which of these items of "republican propaganda" are a lie that the left is not engaging in?
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Old 07-16-2020, 01:56 PM
 
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Thanks to the OP for taking the time to write the post. It's excellent.


I was a young democrat turned independent. I voted for Obama and will never vote for another democrat again.



What we are witnessing is simply a conglomerate of useful idiots being manipulated by elite international global socialists who want complete control over the governance of the United States. They're trying to destroy Western Civilization, and are cloaking it behind their attacks on "Whiteness," who are representative, to them, of Western Civilization.


Their goal is to destabilize this country with unhinged and nonpunishable violence performed by their useful idiots until people are so sick of it they'll do anything to stop this. Their hope is that people will be stupid enough to believe that Biden is the answer. Biden is their puppet. He will be controlled by the elites who want to completely wipe out the West.


Never again voting for a democrat.
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Old 07-16-2020, 02:01 PM
 
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Um, Trump was friends with Epstein and has regularly made comments about dating children, including his own daughter. Maybe you should take a step back and take a look at your hypocrisy.
Lie. Let’s see some quotes. Ditch the TDS.
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Old 07-16-2020, 02:01 PM
 
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I have no idea how anyone can think Biden is some radical. He's about as old-school Democrat as you can get these days.
...and if the writing is on the wall and the dem party is going hard left.. how much power do these old school democrats have to stop it? Did you hear Pelosi lately about the statues? "People are gonna do what they are gonna do" (paraphrasing).
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Old 07-16-2020, 02:03 PM
 
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Lot's of things were not created by popular vote. That still does not mean that a mob armed with chains, ropes and hammers gets to decide for the rest of us whether or not we should have them or not.
You are advocating or apologizing for anarchy.

I'm not concerned with the safety of inanimate objects. I happen to like living in a society where a mob armed with chains, hammers and ropes doesn't get to decide how the rest of us should live by brute force and threat of violence. It's the principle of it. I'm not particularly attracted to statues, I just really don't like the idea of a mob deciding if we should have them or not. Along the same line, I'm not fond of the left attacking freedom of speech and ideas or diversity of OPINIONS that are not sanctioned by the left.
I'm a little sick of the intolerance the left has for anything it disapproves of.

Are you also seriously going to make an equivalence to tearing down a statue of a dictator in a foreign country to what the left is doing in our country?
No, I'm saying that I don't agree with the methods, but I understand why it's happened. And that I understand that in times of cultural upheaval, things like this always happen. And that I can't exactly get too riled up over statues of murderers and slave owners being torn down. Because screw those people.
The problem with your position here is that you are ascribing tearing down statues to some kind of Left policy. It's not. You know it's not. You know that most people on the Left do not agree with those methods, and yet you're still propping it up as a reason to not support them. Systemic racism/BLM issues are not related to only one party or philosophy. That it's associated with the Left at all is because the Left seems to be the only ones who want to see any real change for the better so things like this never happen again.

And yes, I am going to make the comparison to Saddam. Christopher Columbus committed literal genocide. Have you ever read the guy's diaries? One of the first things he wrote when he landed was that the natives were super friendly, so it would be easy to enslave them. He was a monster, and even his peers at the time thought so when killing natives was just another Tuesday. Yet many object to his statue being removed.

Here's the other problem- the Right is documented to be far more violent. When it comes to politically-motivated violence, murder, destruction, etc. the Right commits it on a level many orders of magnitude more often. The Left isn't shooting up churches and synagogues and mosques. The Left aren't part of groups that target minorities. The Left wasn't invading capitol buildings in March with AKs and threatening politicians because they were being asked to follow health precautions in a pandemic. The Left isn't running down peaceful protesters. Where were all the "ex-Democrat" hemming and hawing during any of those events and more?

And the Right does the exact same thing when it comes to freedom of expression. Or did you forget about how Trump attacked Kaepernick for the most peaceful protest possible? How he was basically fired for it. Or how the Right always goes nuts about the "war on Christmas" or how Starbucks has the audacity to have a red cup? Or how about the LONG history of the Right "cancelling" any musicians, artists, etc. that do or say something they don't like? Remember them going crazy when the Dixie Chicks criticized Bush? Or when Sinead O'Connor tore up that Pope picture? The reality is that both sides play this game very, very well. Arguably, Republicans have created an entire industry on being victims. That seems to be the whole point of most conservative media- when not spreading conspiracy theories about gay frogs, they're whining about how the things they say and do have actual consequences.
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Old 07-16-2020, 02:03 PM
 
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The side with a perverted president with questionable cognitive performance complain about a perverted candidate with questionable cognitive performance...
Says a BLM supporter.
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Old 07-16-2020, 02:04 PM
 
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I opened the first story and it mentions "unconfirmed" statements issued by the Minnesota governor. Which only helps to further discredit the Democrat party, in my eyes.
I'm not going to bother to read any more after that.
Somehow I knew you would dismiss the links after demanding evidence.

Yet people demand I engage seriously here as if it's going to make any difference.
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Old 07-16-2020, 02:05 PM
 
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Yeah, it's just silly. Obvious Republican (or troll farm participant) is obvious.
Yeah. Moderates can’t possibly be fed up with a party that supports looting as rioting.
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