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Old 07-21-2020, 09:40 PM
 
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They've finally been forced to admit that the founder was racist and have disavowed her legacy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/n...-eugenics.html

But they are still happy to implement Sanger's plan.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:00 PM
 
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The problem with Sanger is not eugenics, it is coercion and classism. Using the state to enforce classist, negative eugenics is morally wrong and would probably have many negative unintended consequences.

I say this because everyone is a secret eugenicist. You don't date or marry people you find unattractive. You date and marry, or aspire to date and marry, those whom you perceive as having positive traits. Even if one's choices are limited, you will choose the person whom you consider better. It's not a random process.

The difference is that dating and relationships are voluntary affairs, and only concern two people and maybe several others who were rejected. The decision making is distributed and the stakes are low from a societal perspective.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:02 PM
 
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Doesn't change a thing for me.

They are still baby murderers. And they murder more black and brown babies by design.

Babies Lives Matter.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:09 PM
 
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They've finally been forced to admit that the founder was racist and have disavowed her legacy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/n...-eugenics.html

But they are still happy to implement Sanger's plan.
The most interesting thing about Unplanned Parenthood to me is the fact they and Margaret Sanger are hogtied to the democrat party.


Gangs have bosses who control them. The Democrats invented the “Big City” Boss.
They didn’t just control politics, they also controlled industry, Unions.
Once in power, they steal the city treasury and shake-down businesses.
This makes them the “Original Community Organizers.”
Inner City racket.
Research Richard J. Daley
Johah Goldberg is an editor at the National Review. “Democrats used to like to be called Liberals.”
Today, it’s Progressive. What does Progressive mean? Social engineering, social control.
U.S. : Progressivism
USSR: Communism
Italy: Fascism

The Holocaust started off as progressive ideas, experimentation, planning, eugenics.

Margaret Sanger – Silver Lake New Jersey 1926. – Planned Parenthood.

Hitler was a big fan too, and the context is perfectly relevant here too. Hitler's implementation of Margaret Sanger's methods lead to the despicable acts of WW2.

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The problem with Sanger is not eugenics, it is coercion and classism. Using the state to enforce classist, negative eugenics is morally wrong and would probably have many negative unintended consequences.

I say this because everyone is a secret eugenicist. You don't date or marry people you find unattractive. You date and marry, or aspire to date and marry, those whom you perceive as having positive traits. Even if one's choices are limited, you will choose the person whom you consider better. It's not a random process.

The difference is that dating and relationships are voluntary affairs, and only concern two people and maybe several others who were rejected. The decision making is distributed and the stakes are low from a societal perspective.
What are your thoughts about the way she and Hitler practiced race control and the act of snuffing mentally handicapped people?

I'm so disgusted by it that I refuse to sugarcoat it and refuse to water it down by talk of selective "dating".
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:12 PM
 
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State-sponsored eugenics was a widespread movement in the early 20th century that had bipartisan (anachronistic term, but it works) support. It was not a right or left issue.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:17 PM
 
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The problem with Sanger is not eugenics, it is coercion and classism. Using the state to enforce classist, negative eugenics is morally wrong and would probably have many negative unintended consequences.

I say this because everyone is a secret eugenicist. You don't date or marry people you find unattractive. You date and marry, or aspire to date and marry, those whom you perceive as having positive traits. Even if one's choices are limited, you will choose the person whom you consider better. It's not a random process.

The difference is that dating and relationships are voluntary affairs, and only concern two people and maybe several others who were rejected. The decision making is distributed and the stakes are low from a societal perspective.
I disagree, she was an evil racist who wanted to kill black people.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/marylan...w3y-story.html Her legacy lives on to this day at Planned Parenthood who position their abortion factories in black neighbourhoods and kill black children at a rate of 3:1 compared to white children.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:24 PM
 
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State-sponsored eugenics was a widespread movement in the early 20th century that had bipartisan (anachronistic term, but it works) support. It was not a right or left issue.
Unfortunately it is today though.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:28 PM
 
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I disagree, she was an evil racist who wanted to kill black people.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/marylan...w3y-story.html Her legacy lives on to this day at Planned Parenthood who position their abortion factories in black neighbourhoods and kill black children at a rate of 3:1 compared to white children.
Whatever your thoughts on abortion, it is pretty wild to suggest that PP sites clinics in a way to engage in genocide as some sort of homage to their founder.

They site clinics where there is demand. Non-black women are not being denied abortions by PP and black women are not being forced to have abortions by PP.

Most abortions are performed at the request of black women because black women have the most unplanned and unprepared-for pregnancies. That's a whole other issue that PP is simply responding to.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:30 PM
 
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They've finally been forced to admit that the founder was racist and have disavowed her legacy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/n...-eugenics.html

But they are still happy to implement Sanger's plan.
This might be the only good thing that has come out of the current anti-racist trend. Leftists are finally admitting that the evil witch Margaret Sanger was who she was.

Maybe LGBTs will start accepting the fact that their hero Alfred Kinsey was a pedophile rapist who sexually tortured children in the name of "science".
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:43 PM
 
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Whatever your thoughts on abortion, it is pretty wild to suggest that PP sites clinics in a way to engage in genocide as some sort of homage to their founder.

They site clinics where there is demand. Non-black women are not being denied abortions by PP and black women are not being forced to have abortions by PP.

Most abortions are performed at the request of black women because black women have the most unplanned and unprepared-for pregnancies. That's a whole other issue that PP is simply responding to.
You think it is wild that the organisation Sanger founded is achieving the goals of Sanger? I wouldn't characterise it as a homage to Sanger, more an execution of the mission.
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