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Old 07-23-2020, 12:32 PM
 
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I don't think so...I have asked many times what would you have done differently in regards to covid?...I saw a president that did everything possible to aid and assist...everything that a president could do he did...he listened to the experts, he followed their advice, he made every attempt to make aid and resources available...What more would you do or have him done?

I identify as a person who uses information and common sense.

I don't let anyone have a free ride unless they are totally disabled or mentally deficient. Everybody has to have some skin in the game. You're doing a disservice to the group/person when you don't demand responsibility.

What do you see as the iceberg we're running into?...Covid is under control, economy is coming back...jobs are out there to be had. What more do you want?

Here's a great example of the paradoxical conundrum facing those who would love to have a real conversation about Trump's policies, VS Biden's views, or a discussion regarding the fact that the two parties are seemingly in the same class of sycophants who serve the plutocracy but never the citizenry. Where would one begin when addressing someone with such inconsistent observations?
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:36 PM
 
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Polling is anonymous. But I guess if one is so delusional and so cowardly to fear a pollster on the phone...well, that’s just pathetic and sad. I suspect most people surveyed aren’t. For now, I’ll stick to the data rather than half-baked excuses.
If it's anonymous, how did they know what phone number to call...they just make them up as they dial?
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:38 PM
 
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America LOVES Trump!

4 MORE Years!
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Why? To join a party that has only four bullet points to their platform? Racism, Russia Russia Russia, Orange Man Bad and let's tear down everything that America was built upon?


Please, get serious for a second.
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:46 PM
 
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America LOVES Trump!

4 MORE Years!
And more proof that the educated aren't in lockstep with the notions of Trump's most ardent fans..
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Old 07-23-2020, 01:02 PM
 
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Why? To join a party that has only four bullet points to their platform? Racism, Russia Russia Russia, Orange Man Bad and let's tear down everything that America was built upon?


Please, get serious for a second.
Trump isn't racist ........... (unless you are watching CNN).

Trump did not collude with Russia ..........(unless you are watching CNN).

Orange MAN Good! ...............(unless you are watching CNN).

Trump LOVES America! ..................(unless you are watching CNN).
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Old 07-23-2020, 01:24 PM
 
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If it's anonymous, how did they know what phone number to call...they just make them up as they dial?
https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/...ked-questions/

Here is an FAQ that addresses your question about how pollsters get the number. Please look under the section entitled “Collecting Survey Data”. Quality pollsters (usually the large national surveys) employ similar methodologies. Hope this helps.
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Old 07-23-2020, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I can give you two examples. One a physician that voted for Trump in 2016 and will not vote for him this election. Why? The botched pandemic response. Those of us with a health care background know how bad this has been botched.

It's the same with another health care worker that voted for him. She's immunocompromised and scared. She knows how badly this has been botched and how PPE has been effected.

Okay one more, but she said she made a mistake as soon as he was elected. She fell for the disinformation campaign pushed by the Russians to help Trump get elected.

There are a lot of people the see him for what he is that voted for him, but there are far to many that see only what they want to see.
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Old 07-23-2020, 01:29 PM
 
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What a load of crap. If you "identify as a person who uses information and common sense" you would know the virus was called a hoax and anytime Trump took it seriously and not underplayed it was purely political. In March, it was about the stock market drop. Once Quantitative Easing and 0% interest rates saved the market, he stopped caring. He wanted states to reopen far too fast. Covid is not under control when hospitals are over-run and we have to close bars, gyms, movie theaters. You are entirely tone deaf.

FYI, the iceberg is indeed Covid.
Golly, you mean all those masks and social distancing and business closings aren't bringing those numbers down? We need to get better advice!
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Old 07-23-2020, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I can give you two examples. One a physician that voted for Trump in 2016 and will not vote for him this election. Why? The botched pandemic response. Those of us with a health care background know how bad this has been botched.

It's the same with another health care worker that voted for him. She's immunocompromised and scared. She knows how badly this has been botched and how PPE has been effected.

Okay one more, but she said she made a mistake as soon as he was elected. She fell for the disinformation campaign pushed by the Russians to help Trump get elected.

There are a lot of people the see him for what he is that voted for him, but there are far to many that see only what they want to see.
The States controlled their own responses. The Feds made recommendations and gave stimulus money. People like you accuse Trump of being a dictator. So you want him to act like a dictator and force the courts to act to stop him with the Virus response?

What was wrong with the virus response was States forcing businesses to shut down and put society in lock down mode. Disastrous.
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