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Old 07-23-2020, 03:04 PM
 
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I don' t think "too early," just not regulated enough. When people congregate at a beach party, pool party, bar, protest, you name it. This is how it spreads.
I believe we are speaking of the opening of businesses not beach parties, pool parties, etc. Businesses are and have been re-opening with mandated mask wearing and social distancing in place so no, I don't think we opened the economy too early.
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Well, compared to the early months (March, April) of the outbreak, that's true. Medical treatments and patient management are better now, younger people of average are getting sick.

However US hit its lowest death count (since the April peak) about 2 1/2 weeks ago - 500 /day 7-day average. As of yesterday that number is close to 900, which is 80% increase. In the same time frame the daily infections have increased by "only" 40% and the number of active cases by 30%. In other words deaths can lag by many weeks. And we are seeing this now.
Unless we are talking the 3 or 7 day moving average that is false. The last two or three days all saw 1,000+ deaths a day again.

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Old 07-23-2020, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I don' t think "too early," just not regulated enough. When people congregate at a beach party, pool party, bar, protest, you name it. This is how it spreads.



Or a few hundred massive protests/riots/looting sprees....
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Old 07-23-2020, 04:29 PM
 
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Unless we are talking the 3 or 7 day moving average that is false. The last two or three days all saw 1,000+ deaths a day again.
Yes, I know. I used the 7 day average just to avoid anybody dismissing it as a random spike.

Yesterday, TX saw about 200 , the highest ever.
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Old 07-28-2020, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Miami.
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https://www.economist.com/united-sta...mic-in-america

If we all were a little more patient.....hold off that haircut and the urge to eat at Denny’s for one more month, we would of been in a far better position today.
If you guys are right about the level of danger of the virus, lets close all grocery stores, and all merchandise stores? Let's close all businesses? So I wont get infected, you wont get infected and nobody gets infected, problem solved. By your logic on the dangers of reopening, we would all be dead by now.
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Old 07-28-2020, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Yes, I know. I used the 7 day average just to avoid anybody dismissing it as a random spike.

Yesterday, TX saw about 200 , the highest ever.
yep. Arizona generally sees 100 a day of late. I hope it continues but many people who have gotten their results yet.
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Old 07-28-2020, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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https://www.economist.com/united-sta...mic-in-america

If we all were a little more patient.....hold off that haircut and the urge to eat at Denny’s for one more month, we would of been in a far better position today.
Its not that we opened too soon, its that we "opened" without proper usage of masks and social distancing, and mass mobs of "protests" certainly is not helping either
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Old 07-28-2020, 01:10 PM
 
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Or a few hundred massive protests/riots/looting sprees....
The crowd was estimated at 200,000 in DC. That was given the "blessing" by doctors, while at the same time telling the rest of us to stay at home as much as possible, and limit outdoor gatherings to 10.
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Old 07-28-2020, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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https://www.economist.com/united-sta...mic-in-america

If we all were a little more patient.....hold off that haircut and the urge to eat at Denny’s for one more month, we would of been in a far better position today.
Yeah, sure we would. We might have 40 million unemployed instead of 30 million. The stupid thing? There was no need for a lockdown, we could have just worn masks in the first place, like most of SEA did. But instead....Trump listened to the CDC.
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Old 07-28-2020, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I believe we are speaking of the opening of businesses not beach parties, pool parties, etc. Businesses are and have been re-opening with mandated mask wearing and social distancing in place so no, I don't think we opened the economy too early.
but they are not wearing the masks -- wait 45 after school starts
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