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Old 07-24-2020, 10:33 AM
 
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You might be right, but do you have any proof? A lot of people would be interested in seeing that.
If I had proof of the future, I would be hanging out on my own tropical island. Come on. That is part of democrats' policy decisions. Should we not believe them?
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:33 AM
 
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Pre-existing condition coverage allows the freedom of switching employers.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Yeah, Biden is unfortunately a vote for the destruction and return to the bureaucratic swamp of DC, that is everything wrong with politics and DC.

Trump has disrupted the corrupt players in the DC swamp, and is working to disrupt human and child trafficking as well. He's made incredible strides here, and many of those involved have DC political ties as well.

This, as evil as it sounds, is a huge reason the absolute hatred for Trump is so strong. Trump has broken up their corrupt lifestyle: from money flow to sex practices.

Anyway, a vote for Biden is a vote for the swamp, and that is terrible for America's future.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:35 AM
 
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Do you think you will not sustain bills with universal health care? Canadians I know have supplemental insurance because Canada's health care doesn't cover everything. You'll be put in a ward with 3 others at least unless you have supplemental insurance. Now this may not seem like an inconvenience if you are young and healthy - but wait until you are sick and rest is one of the most important things you need to heal. Nurses and aides will be coming in and out giving pills, suctioning airways, tending to the vomiting of your roommates - let a lone their moaning and groaning.

Taiwan does not have long term health provisions. A spinal atrophy patient interviewed has to pay out of pocket for their aides and some of their transportation to doctor appts. Like so many young people think Medicare is free - many of you are under the delusion that universal health care will cover all things and it doesn't.

Then you have the dissatisfaction of the medical doctors and staff themselves. In Taiwan, over 30% do not like the system, another 30% wouldn't give and opinion and less than 30% were satisfied. Do you want you or your loved one being treated by a doctor who's overworked and really isn't happy with the system - is he going to give you the care you really need?

While I think we need big changes - starting with caps on pharmaceuticals and testing costs - I'm not ready to be pushed into a system with so much gov't control that I have no say on my treatment.
Some good points here.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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You will also get:

A version of the Green New Deal
Much higher Energy Taxes and Carbon taxes
Higher Income Taxes
Open Borders disguised as "Amnesty"
More regulation on business
Free college for illegal aliens
Free healthcare for illegal aliens
Reparations for Blacks and possibly LGBT
More Identity Politics and division
But if Trump wins, you get Trump. And if Biden wins, we'll get the continual whining of Repugnantcans.

It makes the choice so very easy.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:36 AM
 
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Pre-existing condition coverage allows the freedom of switching employers.
There is no such thing. It is welfare. Period.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:36 AM
 
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The protection for pre-existing conditions is a falsehood. Insurance companies do not have to cover anybody for any specific pre-x condition. All they do is refuse to allow specialists of that particular field into the network. Voila! People with that condition cannot get coverage.
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That's a good point.
Thank you. It’s a fact that’s been sloughed over. Tons of people are still paying thousands of dollars, in addition to high premiums and deductibles, to pay for their own specialists because Obamacare does not require that insurance companies have in-network specialists to cover pre-X conditions.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:37 AM
 
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There is no such thing. It is welfare. Period.
That is why they had it tied up with the mandate...
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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There is NO SUCH THING as insurance for a pre-existing condition. If you get a policy after the fact and start making claims, then you are receiving welfare dressed up as health insurance. And that is fine. But don't act like that is insurance.
It's like making foodstamps/EBT card look like an ATM card. Everybody knows what it is.
But when Red Staters get that extra $600 in unemployment checks, "That ain't a handout! That ain't socialism!"
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:39 AM
 
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But if Trump wins, you get Trump. And if Biden wins, we'll get the continual whining of Repugnantcans.

It makes the choice so very easy.
If Biden wins, we will have all criminals coddled and excused, illegal immigrants being enticed to come here for more freebies, more race-based programs to give blacks unfair advantages, and those of us who refuse to voice our support for any of it will be bullied into silence, shunned, or worse, fired from our jobs.
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