NYT: The problem with American public education is white parents

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment

White parents will be held to account for the academic failings of black and brown children.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/p...ts-serial.html

https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-nyt-d...white-parents/

My relative taught gradeschool for 40 years in fly-over country and is pretty liberal.

The root problem with failing students was the kids parents.

Kid shows up to kindergarten:
1) Doesn't know their alphabet or numbers 1-10.
2) Has never been read a book.

Parents don't show up for conferences or if they do, blame the teacher for the kid never doing any homework.

Notice I mention no races? It's not about pigment, it's about the kids parents.

The NYT article is frankly damaging and insulting to the concept of responsibility for your own child and that those (in)actions have consequences. It gives a cheap excuse to people that are doing a horrible job raising their child to blame it on *somebody else*.

You see some of these people make it big in sports or music or whatever and they talk about their parents sacrifices, how they worked hard to raise them etc. etc. etc. but I guess that doesn't apply to education huh?

[TheOldPuss]

The problem with everything these days seems to stem from the color white.
I'm rapidly becoming numb to this nonsense.
The failure of our young people to evolve, regardless of the color of their skin, falls directly at the feet of their parents.

[cttransplant85]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

My relative taught gradeschool for 40 years in fly-over country and is pretty liberal.

The root problem with failing students was the kids parents.

Kid shows up to kindergarten:
1) Doesn't know their alphabet or numbers 1-10.
2) Has never been read a book.

Parents don't show up for conferences or if they do, blame the teacher for the kid never doing any homework.

Notice I mention no races? It's not about pigment, it's about the kids parents.

The NYT article is frankly damaging and insulting to the concept of responsibility for your own child and that those (in)actions have consequences. It gives a cheap excuse to people that are doing a horrible job raising their child to blame it on *somebody else*.

You see some of these people make it big in sports or music or whatever and they talk about their parents sacrifices, how they worked hard to raise them etc. etc. etc. but I guess that doesn't apply to education huh?

Of course it’s the parents. Education, more so than other things in life, is something that you get out what you put in. You can get a good education at a bad school, hell you can get a good education watching YouTube videos if you care enough. The child needs to be taught the value of it, taught to be competitive with it, etc at home; relentlessly every day. There seems to be a few different at home approaches that all work. Extreme structure and mandating it like in Asian countries. Or individual goal setting, rewards, at home recognition, very open dialog on it which tends to be a more liberal-western approach.

[ThinkingOutsideTheBox]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

My relative taught gradeschool for 40 years in fly-over country and is pretty liberal.

The root problem with failing students was the kids parents.

Kid shows up to kindergarten:
1) Doesn't know their alphabet or numbers 1-10.
2) Has never been read a book.

Parents don't show up for conferences or if they do, blame the teacher for the kid never doing any homework.

Notice I mention no races? It's not about pigment, it's about the kids parents.

The NYT article is frankly damaging and insulting to the concept of responsibility for your own child and that those (in)actions have consequences. It gives a cheap excuse to people that are doing a horrible job raising their child to blame it on *somebody else*.

You see some of these people make it big in sports or music or whatever and they talk about their parents sacrifices, how they worked hard to raise them etc. etc. etc. but I guess that doesn't apply to education huh?

Originally Posted by TheOldPuss

The problem with everything these days seems to stem from the color white.
I'm rapidly becoming numb to this nonsense.
The failure of our young people to evolve, regardless of the color of their skin, falls directly at the feet of their parents.

Yep: if you were to do a study comparing Indian-American students to White students, "melanin" will prove to have the reverse effect it does when comparing White achievement to Black achievement. Indian parents deeply value education and too many of them may make a school "too competitive and rigorous" for some whites. https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...itiveness.html