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Old 07-25-2020, 01:13 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/h...n-testing.html


Well, no wonder there were 100% positive results, of 100% tested


They lied
Not as many people die
The media complied
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Old 08-11-2020, 11:13 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This is still happening.
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Old 08-12-2020, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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you know, this is one of the most important topics in the fight against COVID. A clear title might have gone a long way. I mean - imagine, such a topic, and no one replied to your unclear title. At all.

So, if somehow there's a curious soul among us like me, let's tell them what they've missed:

The CDC Fubar'd the COVID test, causing delays from February 7 until late March.

For a brief partisan shoutout - "I bet Trump told them not to make a test cause he thought the virus was a hoax!" But let's stick to the subject of getting a good test. From the article:

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Early on, the F.D.A., which oversees laboratory tests, sent Dr. Timothy Stenzel, chief of in vitro diagnostics and radiological health, to the C.D.C. labs to assess the problem, several officials said. He found an astonishing lack of expertise in commercial manufacturing and learned that nobody was in charge of the entire process, they said.

Problems ranged from researchers entering and exiting the coronavirus laboratories without changing their coats, to test ingredients being assembled in the same room where researchers were working on positive coronavirus samples, officials said. Those practices made the tests sent to public health labs unusable because they were contaminated with the coronavirus, and produced some inconclusive results.
And who was AT the CDC?

Steve Monroe, since 1987; head of the Lab Science and Safety
https://www.cdc.gov/about/leadership/leaders/adlss.html

Sherri Berger, since 1996; Chief Operating Officer since 2011

https://www.cdc.gov/about/leadership/leaders/coo.html
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Old 08-12-2020, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Why are we not surprised? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Why are we not surprised? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Because government is involved.
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Old 08-14-2020, 04:29 AM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/h...n-testing.html


Well, no wonder there were 100% positive results, of 100% tested


They lied
Not as many people die
The media complied
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
This is still happening.
Failed headline and topic. You misread the article and apparently didn't notice the date. The article you linked to "prove" your point does NOT say what you believe it does.

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Forced to suspend the launch of a nationwide detection program for the coronavirus for a month, the C.D.C. lost credibility as the nation’s leading public health agency and the country lost ground in ways that continue to haunt grieving families, the sick and the worried well from one state to the next. ...
This is an article written in February about the CDC's test kit fiasco. Laboratories noticed right away that the kits were defective.

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... Mr. Becker said that public health laboratories started receiving the C.D.C. kits on Feb. 7, and by the next day members were already calling him to report that the test was not working accurately. He alerted both the C.D.C. and the F.D.A., which regulates medical devices, including laboratory tests. ...
As we all know, outside companies were allowed to make test kits after a couple of weeks, which solved the problem.

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... The F.D.A. concluded that C.D.C. manufacturing issues were to blame and pushed the agency to shift production to an outside firm. That company, I.D.T., accelerated production of the C.D.C. test and says no more issues were reported.
This is probably where you got lost:

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To this day, the C.D.C.’s singular failure symbolizes how unprepared the federal government was in the early days ...
The article is saying that the CDC's early testing mistake looks bad to this day, not that that same mistake continues to be made.

Too bad the title of this thread can't be changed. It's misleading and promotes a false narrative.

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Old 08-14-2020, 07:40 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Angry-Koala View Post
Failed headline and topic. You misread the article and apparently didn't notice the date. The article you linked to "prove" your point does NOT say what you believe it does.



This is an article written in February about the CDC's test kit fiasco. Laboratories noticed right away that the kits were defective.



As we all know, outside companies were allowed to make test kits after a couple of weeks, which solved the problem.



This is probably where you got lost:



The article is saying that the CDC's early testing mistake looks bad to this day, not that that same mistake continues to be made.

Too bad the title of this thread can't be changed. It's misleading and promotes a false narrative.
This has nothing to do with a defective test.
It has everything to do with the defective place & defective people reading the tests.
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