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Old 07-27-2020, 11:16 AM
 
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Reality: COVID-19 response, lack of unified leadership, and a view of America that is a mix of the 1950s/1980s that is just out of date with a lot of Americans especially outside of rural areas.
Exactly. This encapsulates the major problem for Trump.

As despicable and amoral as the man is, that's not what is driving his recent collapse in popularity. He lied about COVID, and people trusted him, they really did. We saw many threads and hundreds of posts mimicking Trump's lies. To our fellows here they were like gospel Truth.

Well, he lied. Trump got a lot of goons to assault state capitals to try and force states to open too soon. Have we all forgotten that already? Then Trump got red state governors to trail blaze and boldly open up, declaring the pandemic was petering out. DeSantis (Trump puppet extraordinaire) was particularly arrogant and defiant about it, while his own senior citizens became increasingly worried and just hoped he was right. Well now DeSantis and Trump have made Florida the world's epicenter and other countries are now prohibiting AMERICANS from visiting.

Yep, that's 100% Trump. That entire fiasco. No other country (aside from Brazil led by a Trump wannabee, who even pushed the same pandemic policies) has performed so poorly. No other leader of a major advanced country has contributed to the deaths of so many of his own citizens as Trump has.

And yes, Trump does have a narrow societal view, it's like he can't get the 1950's out of his head.

Furthermore, Trump spent his whole life hobnobbing with pedophiles and mobsters while cheating on his taxes and money laundering ... and now wants to claim the mantle of 'law and order' and 'defender of religion'. The people can see through it.

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Old 07-27-2020, 11:42 AM
 
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I read something just the other day of the plans being made to rid us of ACA and replace it with something better.
That right there is the most Trumpian citation ever.
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Old 07-27-2020, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Trump can go one of two ways. He can do stuff to make you vote for him, or he can do stuff to make you vote for the other guy. If Biden wins, that means Trump did more stuff to make you vote for Biden, which would put the whole thing squarely on him.
That ship has sailed.
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Old 07-27-2020, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Simple.

He caved to the people who really are in power in this country.
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Old 07-27-2020, 12:13 PM
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Leave it to Republicans to deny a legally documented fact that he's racist.
https://www.clearinghouse.net/chDocs...-0024-0034.pdf

Of course Trump would deny it, the guy lies about everything & is as shady as they come.
It was a charge by the housing department. He denied it. They reached an agreement without any admission of guilt. In fact he sued the group that accused him of it.

You are the one who have just lied about it being a "legally documented fact."

Now his company may or may not have discriminated. But you haven't proven anything other than that he was accused of it. Did he? I don't know. But to be real, in the 60s/early 70s, if he didn't discriminate, he was probably in the minority. That was illegal. It was discriminatory, but not necesssarily racist. They were afraid they would lose all their other tenants (see "White flight").
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Old 07-27-2020, 01:11 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Voters are motivated by fear in many cases. The 2016 Trump voters were shocked and angry that Obama was president and fearful that the country was changing. Trump's racism and anti-everything rhetoric attracted them along with his faux religious posturing and self-promoting messianic message -- only he could save America. Everything is a simple fix if you are a simpleton and Trump claimed to have a fix for everything. After four years of golf and tweets and executive orders he looks like a tin god of shallow ability and few lasting accomplishments.

Today's fear of the continuing pandemic and economic collapse has collided with the recognition that Trump does not have an answer. He still preaches to the 2016 problems, the ones that he didn't fix. He ignores the 2020 problems and fears in the voters' minds. They want to know if their kids will be safe in school. Will they have a job? Will they lose their home? How do we beat the virus? Often the issues in a presidential election are more abstract. These are very personal and very real. Trump continues to misjudge the scope of the job and the challenges of 2020.
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Old 07-27-2020, 01:19 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Voter fraud. If they’re willing to do all this rioting and destroying of cities, voter fraud is a piece of cake for them.
They will cheat. We know that from the fake russian hoax.
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Old 07-27-2020, 01:35 PM
 
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I read something just the other day of the plans being made to rid us of ACA and replace it with something better.
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LOL, Keep reading, it's all BS.

I can't believe you people fall for it again and again.
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That right there is the most Trumpian citation ever.
Exactly. It's like deer in the headlights, Trump rolls over them every time.
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Old 07-27-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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They will cheat. We know that from the fake russian hoax.
There was nothing fake about Russian interference, it was real and tragic for our republic. We also know Trump was fully aware that Putin was trying to help him. Trump was happy about it.

The people who are hoaxed are the people who believe the Russian interference is fake. Open your eyes and become a patriot.
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Old 07-27-2020, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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That right there is the most Trumpian citation ever.
Right up there with "people are saying..." followed by the lie du jour.
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