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Old 07-27-2020, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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for those who may have forgot, perhaps Rudy was a useful idiot. It was his "tested positive days after the press conference where he intentionally touched everything in sight downplaying COVID" that got the shutdowns started.
I hear Rudy is a lizard person.
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Old 07-27-2020, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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we are the highest deaths/MM/day?

Deaths have been 1,000 or more 6 days since June 9. The average since June 1 is 897. So, just as you claim the OP is hyperbolic, the same applies to you.

can you provide links to "Texas hospitals are sending folks home to die because they are out of room." Or the death panels?

Thanks.
A Texas hospital is so overrun with coronavirus cases that officials say it will send the patients least likely to survive home to die

https://www.businessinsider.com/texa...ome-die-2020-7

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A Texas county said it was forming a committee to decide which coronavirus patients were most likely to die and send them home to their families.
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Old 07-28-2020, 03:09 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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A Texas hospital is so overrun with coronavirus cases that officials say it will send the patients least likely to survive home to die

https://www.businessinsider.com/texa...ome-die-2020-7
So? What's your point?
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Old 07-29-2020, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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So? What's your point?
How about reading the thread....I was responding to this

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can you provide links to "Texas hospitals are sending folks home to die because they are out of room." Or the death panels?
So I gave a link.....what's your problem??
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Old 07-29-2020, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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This doctor and state senator was criticized and reported/investigated and cleared regarding his comments about the way deaths were being reported. It is very interesting that with Medicare, a diagnosis and treatment is more financially beneficial for those making that diagnosis.

https://www.startribune.com/gop-legi...nts/571637602/

Birx and classifying a death as due to COVID 19 when it wasn't the cause, so...........

https://live.healthday.com/coronavir...645672483.html
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Old 07-29-2020, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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If we want spectacular, frightening numbers, we can point to how many people are *catching* the virus every day. Never mind that 99% of those people (or more) recover. Quite a few of them without ever even feeling sick.

The most threatening part, of course, is the people who actually *die* from Covid-19 every day.

And shouldn't we figure in the number of people in each country? Far more people die in the U.S. than in, say, Peru. But that's because there are far more people IN the U.S. who can catch it and die.

People are telling us nowadays that the pandemic is worse now than it ever has been. Umm, really?

Here's a chart of some sample first-world countries, and how many people have died in each 24-hour period since this all started, per million population.

The reported deaths vary hugely across any given week (many deaths aren't report during weekends, but finally get lumped in and reported on Monday or Tuesday). So it's more realistic to average out the number for the past 7 days. IOW, add up today's deaths with the previous six day's, and divide by seven.

Click on the thumbnail to see the results.

Data is from Oxford University, "Our World In Data". It is taken every day at midnight GMT.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-source-data

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It's as if you can't see how that red line is actually going up. We now lead the world in deaths per million and the gap is widening. We are close to 150,000 dead Americans with no end in site. Just how many more need to die to satisfy you?
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Old 07-29-2020, 03:32 PM
 
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...Just how many more need to die...

Looks like, excepting a few crazy places, about 500-800 per million population.



Means about 300K total, USA, would put us right in line with where everyone else is going to end up - no matter what we do. (vaccine excepted) New York threw us some extra, or it would be less than 300K.



"The most threatening part, of course, is the people who actually *die* from Covid-19 every day."

Absolutely not. The most threatening part is how many might not get a hospital bed. That's what we're fighting here - to keep resources available, that's all. Dead people do not need a hospital bed.
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