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Old 07-28-2020, 08:13 AM
 
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As all blacks divide in the way we do business. Get the hint yet? Just being black has always been meant as a deterrent according to the rest of world. So the only reason a black person is anywhere to begin with is for dividing people. Obama was just another a puppet for the white everyday experience.
Ah, now I see where you are headed. I disagree. Not all blacks divide. Many a good black business owner or manager that unites his/her teams for the better of the business. I would not call that being white, would you? Now if you are on the side of Maxism and/or socialism, that is where we will be divided. Not all blacks are for those things.

I also don't think Obama was much of a puppet. He was his own man. He acted on what he believed. That is the whole point of this thread. He did what he wanted regardless of the outcome or division it caused. For that I respect him. This is why I think a lot of people are electing "non politicians" like Trump, AOC, etc, they are tired of politics as usual. They are tired of the divide and the two parties seeking only power and not the best interests of the country or its citizens. I don't think electing those people has done anything to unite us. In fact, the opposite.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:15 AM
 
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Well, maybe you need to find some other whites to speak with. Right now I can see politics being a common issue to talk about. It is an election year, and the country is extremely divided. Outside of the posting I do here, I don't talk about politics much. Much more likely to talk about my hobbies, job, crazy family members, good television, book I"m reading, music I like, etc. I certainly don't go around talking to my friends about how much money I make. If you talked to me this week, I would more than likely complain about my internet provider tearing up my lawn for work the neighbors are having done. Why tear up my lawn and not theirs? What the heck?!

BTW - I am curious to know what your black friends speak with you about?
I never see politics as a common issue with whites. I don’t agree with any of them politically, so I don’t see the point of being around people who I have nothing else in common with, and I really don’t. I don’t have a lawn and don’t want one. I don’t own a car and don’t want one. My hobbies are solitary. No one around me does what I do, and they are not interested in what I do. I like cooking. I talk to people about food. I like the beach and the mountains. I talk to people about those. I like architecture and topics about health. I talk about those. But then whenever I talk to a white person, it eventually goes to politics and money. Yawn.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:18 AM
 
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Obama divided the country. Especially after the Mike Brown incident.

Trump has turned it into the equivalent when Moses parted the sea. We are now more divided than ever before.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:20 AM
 
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No I think it was Chicago style politics blended with a new approach. Obama had a weapon no president before him ever had. The race card and it was used so often by his supporters that it lost all meaning. It was more his supporters dividing than him, but he didn't discourage it either.

Obama had no problem using race and enjoyed a free pass from the media because he was black.

Imagine if Trump had lied and blamed aa Youtube video for Americans being killed. Imagine if Trump involved us in wars in not one but 3 more countries. He wouldn't enjoy the protection of the media.

Imagine if Trump said the reason people join the military is because they have no other options....


He was hounded for sending Nation Guard troops to the border. Obama did the same thing.

He was hounded about those detainment camps. The camps built on Obama's watch.



No Obama simply enjoyed a lot of free passes. By the way my son is black and like Obama raised by a white. He had the advantage of an Asian Mom and 2 bossy older sisters though.
I disagree. His upbringing and living in Chicago gave him a different perspective in life. He was also a community organizer so I guarantee he saw some racist things also dealing with some racist cops.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:20 AM
 
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You dont think its because Obama has a different perspective in life? As a black male he will see things differently than a George Bush, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton etc. So I dont think its race baiting but just seeing things differently.
Probably in some regards, as he was from a mixed family, so I guess from that perspective he saw things differently than any white or black person would that was not from a mixed family.

Oh, he definitely race bated. The comment about he would like a son like Trayvon. That was pure pandering, unless of course he actually meant it, which would be even more disturbing. Zimmerman is trash, but a mixed jury said Trayvon was the aggressor. I can't imaging anyone of any color wanting their son to be a criminal. That was a strange comment by Obama who usually was above that stuff.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:21 AM
 
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Ah, now I see where you are headed. I disagree. Not all blacks divide. Many a good black business owner or manager that unites his/her teams for the better of the business. I would not call that being white, would you? Now if you are on the side of Maxism and/or socialism, that is where we will be divided. Not all blacks are for those things.

I also don't think Obama was much of a puppet. He was his own man. He acted on what he believed. That is the whole point of this thread. He did what he wanted regardless of the outcome or division it caused. For that I respect him. This is why I think a lot of people are electing "non politicians" like Trump, AOC, etc, they are tired of politics as usual. They are tired of the divide and the two parties seeking only power and not the best interests of the country or its citizens. I don't think electing those people has done anything to unite us. In fact, the opposite.
Poor blacks do divide. Blacks in business have a strong dislike for poor blacks. It is pure blacks that everyone has the biggest problem with.

Obama was as much of a puppet as all leaders. Like another poster on a different thread has stated, central banks are the only “own man.”
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:23 AM
 
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Probably in some regards, as he was from a mixed family, so I guess from that perspective he saw things differently than any white or black person would that was not from a mixed family.

Oh, he definitely race bated. The comment about he would like a son like Trayvon. That was pure pandering, unless of course he actually meant it, which would be even more disturbing. Zimmerman is trash, but a mixed jury said Trayvon was the aggressor. I can't imaging anyone of any color wanting their son to be a criminal. That was a strange comment by Obama who usually was above that stuff.
Its not pandering if he actually believed it or experienced it.

He probably knew of people that were in that same situation. As a black man your life experiences will be way different then a rich white persons.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:24 AM
 
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I was pretty much indifferent towards Obama, he wasn't my first choice but he did help the industry I work in so I was definitely thankful for that. Where things went astray though was the Mike Brown shooting. Much like what is going on now, he made comments before the details were out. He appeared to side with the criminal first, creating an anti police vibe. Then it went down hill from there.
Obama and his race obsessed "wingman" AG Eric Holder inserted themselves into every racially charged incident they could, thereby fanning the flames of racial division. If Obama has any legacy at all it is that he actively worked at dividing the country along racial lines. And what a sad legacy that is for the first mixed race president.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:27 AM
 
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Obama divided the country. Especially after the Mike Brown incident.

Trump has turned it into the equivalent when Moses parted the sea. We are now more divided than ever before.
Thing is, racial division is natural. The US has been pushed into an unnatural direction and is now paying for it. Can’t blame me for obama or trump. I think America gets what it deserves every time. I would rather have division than unnatural unity.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Obama and his race obsessed "wingman" AG Eric Holder inserted themselves into every racially charged incident they could, thereby fanning the flames of racial division. If Obama has any legacy at all it is that he actively worked at dividing the country along racial lines. And what a sad legacy that is for the first mixed race president.
And why do you think that happened?
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