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Old 09-27-2020, 05:30 PM
 
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As of now, there are 201 murders in St. Louis.

https://www.slmpd.org/images/Homicid...or_Website.pdf

Looks like St. Louis could get to 270 on its current pace. We still have October, November, and December to get through. And don't think for a moment that a drop in temperatures will stop any of this. St. Louis had 5 murders on January 1, 2020. If the cooler weather won't stop it, if Covid-19 won't stop it, what will?
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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As of now, there are 201 murders in St. Louis.

https://www.slmpd.org/images/Homicid...or_Website.pdf

Looks like St. Louis could get to 270 on its current pace. We still have October, November, and December to get through. And don't think for a moment that a drop in temperatures will stop any of this. St. Louis had 5 murders on January 1, 2020. If the cooler weather won't stop it, if Covid-19 won't stop it, what will?
270 homicides would be only 3 less than Detroit's 2019 homicide numbers. Detroit has more than twice as many people in its city limits than St Louis and is the most notorius crime city in the country. With the upcoming election turmoil, I think St Louis will exceed its old homicide record of 267 back in 1993.
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Old 09-27-2020, 06:13 PM
 
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As of now, there are 201 murders in St. Louis.

https://www.slmpd.org/images/Homicid...or_Website.pdf

Looks like St. Louis could get to 270 on its current pace. We still have October, November, and December to get through. And don't think for a moment that a drop in temperatures will stop any of this. St. Louis had 5 murders on January 1, 2020. If the cooler weather won't stop it, if Covid-19 won't stop it, what will?
Introducing more white culture might help;

https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status...203651/photo/1
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Old 09-27-2020, 06:51 PM
 
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270 homicides would be only 3 less than Detroit's 2019 homicide numbers. Detroit has more than twice as many people in its city limits than St Louis and is the most notorius crime city in the country. With the upcoming election turmoil, I think St Louis will exceed its old homicide record of 267 back in 1993.
Detroit is really turning a corner and it has a chance to come back from the dead. It still has a long road. St. Louis has been getting worse each year. St. Louis' old murder record occurred when the city had about 396,000 people (St. Louis' population decreased from 453,805 in 1980 to 396,685 in 1990).

St. Louis has been rough going back to the 1950s. This is the home of the infamous Pruitt-Igoe projects. Pruitt-Igoe was constructed between 1951 and 1955. It started to decline between the late 1950s/early 1960s. By 1965, Pruitt-Igoe was only 1/3 occupied and had become one of the most dangerous places in St. Louis. The architect, Minoru Yamasaki said "I never thought people were that destructive" when he saw how fast the Pruitt-Igoe housing projected were decayed. It was demolished in the 1970s.
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Old 09-27-2020, 06:53 PM
 
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Introducing more white culture might help;

https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status...203651/photo/1
African immigrants coming here, who haven't been immersed in "white culture" aren't contributing to the violence in St. Louis. It's American-born Blacks involved. And you think that hard work and diligence are a "white" thing, that says alot about your messed up thinking.
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Old 09-27-2020, 07:38 PM
 
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African immigrants coming here, who haven't been immersed in "white culture" aren't contributing to the violence in St. Louis. It's American-born Blacks involved. And you think that hard work and diligence are a "white" thing, that says alot about your messed up thinking.
I did not say it, the Smithsonian Museum of African American History did.
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Old 09-27-2020, 08:21 PM
 
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Detroit is really turning a corner and it has a chance to come back from the dead. It still has a long road. St. Louis has been getting worse each year. St. Louis' old murder record occurred when the city had about 396,000 people (St. Louis' population decreased from 453,805 in 1980 to 396,685 in 1990).

St. Louis has been rough going back to the 1950s. This is the home of the infamous Pruitt-Igoe projects. Pruitt-Igoe was constructed between 1951 and 1955. It started to decline between the late 1950s/early 1960s. By 1965, Pruitt-Igoe was only 1/3 occupied and had become one of the most dangerous places in St. Louis. The architect, Minoru Yamasaki said "I never thought people were that destructive" when he saw how fast the Pruitt-Igoe housing projected were decayed. It was demolished in the 1970s.
I think historic racial conflict in St Louis (arguably worse than any other Midwestern city with the exception of Detroit) and botched urban "renewal" projects such as Pruitt-Igoe can go a long way in explaining why St Louis today is such a mess.
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Old 09-27-2020, 09:28 PM
 
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Detroit is really turning a corner and it has a chance to come back from the dead. It still has a long road. St. Louis has been getting worse each year. St. Louis' old murder record occurred when the city had about 396,000 people (St. Louis' population decreased from 453,805 in 1980 to 396,685 in 1990).

St. Louis has been rough going back to the 1950s. This is the home of the infamous Pruitt-Igoe projects. Pruitt-Igoe was constructed between 1951 and 1955. It started to decline between the late 1950s/early 1960s. By 1965, Pruitt-Igoe was only 1/3 occupied and had become one of the most dangerous places in St. Louis. The architect, Minoru Yamasaki said "I never thought people were that destructive" when he saw how fast the Pruitt-Igoe housing projected were decayed. It was demolished in the 1970s.
I have heard of Pruitt-Igoe, and for it to have been demolished after a short life in comparison to other infamous projects around the country says something about how truly bad it must have been. Crazy thing is it was built to house the middle class, black and white people but living segregated until it was outlawed a very short time later. I didn't know it's architect was of Japanese descent.
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Old 09-27-2020, 10:07 PM
 
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So Trump's America right?
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Old 09-27-2020, 10:21 PM
 
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I have heard of Pruitt-Igoe, and for it to have been demolished after a short life in comparison to other infamous projects around the country says something about how truly bad it must have been. Crazy thing is it was built to house the middle class, black and white people but living segregated until it was outlawed a very short time later. I didn't know it's architect was of Japanese descent.
Minoru Yamasaki was the principal designer of the original World Trade Center, in addition to Pruitt-Igoe.

This is one of those things that you learn only in hindsight, but Pruitt-Igoe was not well designed to foster a sense of community. Like many failed public housing projects, it consisted of huge tower blocks set apart from each other in an otherwise open green space. The very architecture fostered a sense of isolation. There were so many apartments on each floor that people couldn't know all of their neighbors, which made it harder to know who belonged there and who didn't. With "everyone" having a share in the common areas, this meant in practical terms that no one did, and so the thugs took them over.

An odd feature of Pruitt-Igoe was that the elevators only stopped on every other floor. If you lived on a floor where they didn't stop, you had to walk up or down a flight of stairs to get to an elevator. I have no idea what purpose this served, but what it meant in practice was that lowlifes would hide out in the stairwells and mug people as they went to and from the floors that had elevators.
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