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Old 08-04-2020, 06:09 AM
 
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Outrageous Trumpian imitated campaign bull$%#*, IMO.

Look over here,Trumplings. Foment and exacerbate my culture war. Here you go, more bread and circuses. Be distracted from my failure. And never ever believe that my cronies and I have invested heavily in this dangerous drug that I need to sell you.
I am actually not a Trumpling. It is obvious to anyone that looks that doctors and medical staff are evil. They are all like Nurse Ratchett... absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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If by thousands you mean three or four.....

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just a bunch of quacks here I suppose???

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/...reatment-study

The findings have been highly analyzed and peer-reviewed,” said Dr. Marcus Zervos, division head of Infectious Disease for Henry Ford Health System, who co-authored the study with Henry Ford epidemiologist Samia Arshad. “We attribute our findings that differ from other studies to early treatment, and part of a combination of interventions that were done in supportive care of patients, including careful cardiac monitoring. Our dosing also differed from other studies not showing a benefit of the drug. And other studies are either not peer reviewed, have limited numbers of patients, different patient populations or other differences from our patients.”
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:21 AM
 
Location: NH
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If by thousands you mean three or four.....

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Your ok with the media spreading fear by using a small percentage of severe Covid cases, but you are not ok with a small percentage of doctors spreading hope using their own experiences. Double standard here.
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:22 AM
 
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I am actually not a Trumpling. It is obvious to anyone that looks that doctors and medical staff are evil. They are all like Nurse Ratchett... absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Well, whatever you are, and whoever you are promoting, it still is bull^%$*, IMO. ".....doctors and nurses and medical staff are evil" is wackadoodle ugliness.

No it isn't obvious to anyone. Perhaps to QAnon followers.

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Old 08-04-2020, 06:23 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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According to a protocol-based treatment algorithm, among hospitalized patients, use of hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with a significant reduction in-hospital mortality compared to not receiving hydroxychloroquine.

https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S...534-8/fulltext
Retrospectives are not as rigorous as trials.
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:25 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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just a bunch of quacks here I suppose???

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/...reatment-study

The findings have been highly analyzed and peer-reviewed,” said Dr. Marcus Zervos, division head of Infectious Disease for Henry Ford Health System, who co-authored the study with Henry Ford epidemiologist Samia Arshad. “We attribute our findings that differ from other studies to early treatment, and part of a combination of interventions that were done in supportive care of patients, including careful cardiac monitoring. Our dosing also differed from other studies not showing a benefit of the drug. And other studies are either not peer reviewed, have limited numbers of patients, different patient populations or other differences from our patients.”

And you figure Adm Giroir is unaware of this retrospective study, do you?

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Old 08-04-2020, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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A group of doctors running a study in their own facility Ford Hospital) is far more credible than a govt. bureaucrat.
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:37 AM
 
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A group of doctors running a study in their own facility Ford Hospital) is far more credible than a govt. bureaucrat.
^^^This flawed "study" has been widely criticized by scientists and medical professionals who have nothing to do with the federal government or our highly regarded public health institutions.

No matter what the president says, the scientific & medical evidence shows hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment for the virus.

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Old 08-04-2020, 06:53 AM
 
Location: NH
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^^^This flawed "study" has been widely criticized by scientists and medical professionals who have nothing to do with the federal government or our highly regarded public health institutions.

No matter what the president says, the scientific & medical evidence shows hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment for the virus.
Than don't take it, that simple.

Don't deprive others though that want to take it. Don't shun medical professionals that have seen the benefits of it. If we are so concerned about each life lost due to covid, wouldn't a few lives saved be a step in the right direction?
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:05 AM
 
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Than don't take it, that simple.

Don't deprive others though that want to take it. Don't shun medical professionals that have seen the benefits of it. If we are so concerned about each life lost due to covid, wouldn't a few lives saved be a step in the right direction?


The point is, dear, as has been made clear in this thread: Both Trump's own public health officials, and the medical and scientific community at large, have provided evidence, that disproves the claims of a few, regarding this dangerous drug. Hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment for the virus.

Yet, in the face of all this, Trump, and his remaining useful idiots, ignorantly insist on promoting an ineffective and dangerous treatment with disinformation and the usual Trumpian twisty lies. That is the topic of the thread.
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