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Originally Posted by Ultor
Yeah, I'm sidestepping!
I'm not the one who said a house built in 1936 was built by slaves.
I have no problem admitting I assumed it was the original home. That doesnt change anything about the context being discussed now does it.
Slaves still build the original home, plowed the fields their, and the owners seem to be charging for tours of the property to teach everyone about how wrongly slaves were treated.
You are making the argument that it is ok, because it isnt the original house.
No I wouldn’t want to have a wedding on a former plantation.
I wouldn’t even go to one.
I wouldn’t have a wedding or attend one on old Native American burial grounds or on the site of a former concentration camp.
And it seems you don't want anyone else to be able to either. Should the buildings be burned and the land plowed under and salted so nothing else ever grows there? Perhaps the owners should fund inner city social programs as they beg forgiveness for eternity? Maybe build monuments on the land to Minneapolis street thugs where whites can kneel, those who never owned slaves asking for pardon from those who never were slaves?
It's a big old structure on land that farms, and is used as events venue. If we can't appreciate old things there is no hope for us. Methinks they are fishing for "woke points" though since they obviously understand that slavery wasn't part of the equation here and ANY location could have had something unseemly happen at some point.
I have deep hatred for the antebellum period of the South. In fact, I have deep hatred for any time period in the South before 1970. Outside of the architectural style of the buildings, I can't muster any love for it. Personally, I hear the apology, and I don't view it as fascism or pandering.
Sounds like you need to work on your harboring of "deep hatred" more than Ryan Reynolds needs to apologize for anything.
And there's nothing more fascist in today's society than cancel culture.
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"Smartened up and walked away!"
(set 26 days ago)
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I looked at the so called plantation and the wedding pictures. Both are gorgeous and in no way disrespecting the black man. There is nothing to apologize for. People get married in castles, at the Pyramids and in gorgeous lodges built and in forests where Indians warred hundreds of years ago. We live in 2020 - libs want to tear down history in the form of statues but they want to use that history to prohibit people from getting married at venues like this.
a home built by slaves, maintained by slaves, and 150 years later, the descendants of slave owners are still making money off the backs of those slaves.
Yea, location itself is a problem.
So, plantation event centers are bad because there was once slavery there but a Ground Zero Mosque, insensitively mocking terrorism and mass murder is ok?
Left Wing cancel culture isn't just stupid, it's hypocritical as Hell.
Unless they were actively parading black people around in chains or something, I'm not sure how they were "glorifying" the pre-1865 image of what a plantation was.
Are people who visit and take photo ops at the pyramids glorifying the slavery that took place there? Are people who visit European castles glorying the torture and barbaric practices that constantly took place within their walls?
History is just that. People need to get a grip and stop acting like history gives a crap about poorly adjusted 21st century people's imbalanced emotional reactions to it. What's done is done and your life today has no bearing on what happened 160+ years ago, nor should it be seen as some simplistic reflection of it.
I have no problem admitting I assumed it was the original home. That doesnt change anything about the context being discussed now does it.
Slaves still build the original home, plowed the fields their, and the owners seem to be charging for tours of the property to teach everyone about how wrongly slaves were treated.
You are making the argument that it is ok, because it isnt the original house.
Who do you think you're kidding, it practically killed you to admit you were wrong.
...And, I haven't made any argument yet - just corrected your factual errors.
It's for me to decide whether or not they were parading black people around in chains at their wedding? Seems like that would be an objective detail. Either it happened or it didn't.
And if they felt like it was in fact their intention at the time to glorify slavery, then yes, they should feel contrite. Again, it's an objective detail. Either it was their intent to glorify slavery or it wasn't. Assuming the latter is the case then they have nothing to apologize for.
I'm surprised if more and more people aren't completely sick of the political correctness by now...
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