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These scumbag Democrats are the same across the entire country. In Minneapolis they have decided to hold off their big plan to defund the police and I’m sure it has nothing to do with half the businesses saying they are planning to leave. Even the media has abandoned them here and are starting to openly question if Democratic leadership works in big cities.
I read an article that said the State of New York is losing Tens of Billions of Dollars per year to Florida in lost taxes. Many of the Wall Street jobs are leaving now, and New York has lost 71 Fortune 500 HQ's to other states. Remember when they lost Amazon's 2nd HQ's?
New York once had 125 of the Fortune 500 companies HQ'd there. By 1986 it was 61. Today, its 54.
Yep. My husband was going to work for 6 more years and I figured we would be here for 8 minimum. I spent the last two years trying to buy a house that was way overpriced knowing the property taxes were going to be on the high side. But I figured since we were stuck, we might as well enjoy it. Well then we found out my husband's company was doing cuts so there was no way we were going to buy a house with high taxes. We are looking at Tennessee and waiting to hear what kind of buyout they are going to offer so we know when it makes sense to move if he takes it.
People have been slaves to the high tax states for so long, they took us for granted. When they eliminated the SALT deduction, people finally started to wake up. And the crime was the final straw. I know tons of people applying for concealed carry. Just hope they don't move to the red states and vote in the same idiots who created this mess.
Agree, 100%.
Hell, JUST my annual real estate tax bill on ONE home in IL was over $19,000/year. That's ALREADY $9,000 over the SALT deduction limit. And that's before even adding state income tax, etc.
If this Clown governor wants the rich to return to NYC he has to do a few things. Convince DeBlasio to FLOOD the streets with police to make the city safe. Then OPEN things up in the phased way that he promised. He isn't doing that. He suddenly stopped the re-opening because of Covid in other states. NY continually tests at 1% positive. The data suggest we should be going forward with re-opening.
Rich people like to be in NYC because they are safe, and because they can do interesting things with interesting people. It is a wasteland now. How do the UES billionaires take to constant footage of police cars burning...they FLEE. And the place is over-ridden with protesters, crime, trash, and graffiti. If NYC is a thriving, interesting, and safe place, the rich will pay a reasonable amount of taxes. They won't be fleeced by the socialists, but they will pay their share. But no one will come back to NYC as it is now. THIS is what progressive leadership leads to--- a wasteland.
Hell, JUST my annual real estate tax bill on ONE home in IL was over $19,000/year. That's ALREADY $9,000 over the SALT deduction limit. And that's before even adding state income tax, etc.
Can't rep you again so soon.
GEEZ! I left Georgia because my property tax bill was $9,200. The rate of increase was zany...it went from $6,000 to $9,200 in 3 years, and that was with us disputing it 2X in 3 yrs...unsuccessfully the 2nd time.
I know of people who were paying $30,000 in New Jersey, and they couldn't sell their home at any reasonable price for over 2 years, due to the high tax rate, so they walked away from it and any equity they had in it. It was first listed at $1.2M, & they gave up when they couldnt sell it at $800k; and walked away.
Much of all of this is due to unsustainable government worker pensions, and crazy high compensation packages. The gov't keeps paying themselves more and more money, more vacation days, allowing accrued vacation year after year, high raises each year outpacing inflation, more sick days, & floating days, earlier retirement ages, its gov't stealing from taxpayers unchecked. The Teachers in their town were making $100K+...teaching is a part time job up there with all the time off they got after just a few years.
Yep. My husband was going to work for 6 more years and I figured we would be here for 8 minimum. I spent the last two years trying to buy a house that was way overpriced knowing the property taxes were going to be on the high side. But I figured since we were stuck, we might as well enjoy it. Well then we found out my husband's company was doing cuts so there was no way we were going to buy a house with high taxes. We are looking at Tennessee and waiting to hear what kind of buyout they are going to offer so we know when it makes sense to move if he takes it.
People have been slaves to the high tax states for so long, they took us for granted. When they eliminated the SALT deduction, people finally started to wake up. And they crime was the final straw. I know tons of people applying for concealed carry. Just hope they don't move to the red states and vote in the same idiots who created this mess.
I've found that the 1st to leave the high tax states are conservatives. They are the ones who are most teed off about it, so they vote with theri feet. Then, some of those who leave later on, realize the mistakes they made that resulted in all the high taxes. Those Libs who love last and will not change their tax & spend mentality are in the minority in the low tax states. Immigration can overrun low-tax conservative States though, like Arizona, Texas, and Florida.
And Lib-geniuses are still applauding AOC for running out high paying jobs (and the taxes) that it would have provided.
Even when a once bright shiny thriving city is in ruins, the Libs keep applauding the failed policies. Ilived just outside Detroit and watched the entire cycle play out up close and personal. "Ruins" is not an exaggeration for what Detroit is today. They still vote Democrat! It is a mental illness for sure.
GEEZ! I left Georgia because my property tax bill was $9,200. The rate of increase was zany...it went from $6,000 to $9,200 in 3 years, and that was with us disputing it 2X in 3 yrs...unsuccessfully the 2nd time.
I know of people who were paying $30,000 in New Jersey, and they couldn't sell their home at any reasonable price for over 2 years, due to the high tax rate, so they walked away from it and any equity they had in it. It was first listed at $1.2M, & they gave up when they couldnt sell it at $800k; and walked away.
Much of all of this is due to unsustainable government worker pensions, and crazy high compensation packages. The gov't keeps paying themselves more and more money, more vacation days, allowing accrued vacation year after year, high raises each year outpacing inflation, more sick days, & floating days, earlier retirement ages, its gov't stealing from taxpayers unchecked. The Teachers in their town were making $100K+...teaching is a part time job up there with all the time off they got after just a few years.
30K? That must have been one heck of a house.
Pensions are a HUGE HUGE part of the equation.
Some of the above you mention are few workers. Sick pay is capped at 15K for 99% of workers. Yes crazy, now only the true elite get more. Yes it should be lower and 100% should be capped at say 2 weeks, but the police chiefs and superintendents wield ENORMOUS power. Few teachers make 100K. 60K-70K is the norm and benefits have declined quite a bit from say 15 years ago.
No I am NOT saying NJ is a good example of much of anything but good SAT and ACT scores, but the quoted is an exaggeration of outliers.
Are you or the idiots over at the daily wire aware that the Hamptons and Hudson Valley are in New York?
That the Elites spend every Summer in the Hamptons, and the slightly less elite in Hudson Valley.
The vibe in Manhattan now is better than it's been in years. We'll get federal funds in the next stimulus bill, and again some time in January and we'll be off to the races, and many states will be able to thrive on our scraps again.
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