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If everybody in Baltimore moved to Wyoming, I'll bet their death rate would plummet.
Try this for a thought experiment: everyone in Wyoming moves to Baltimore, while everyone in Baltimore moves to Wyoming. I think you'd find the new Baltimoreans to be an unhappy lot, because I'm guessing that most Wyomingites don't much care for city living. But here's something else that would happen: the city would get cleaned up, fixed up, and would become a vastly safer place to be.
Meanwhile, the higher-class new Wyomingites would congregate in Laramie (because that's where the university is), and they'd be fine. Most of the rest of the new Wyomingites would congregate in Cheyenne (because all that wide-open empty space would unnerve them), which would quickly descend into Third World levels of crime and social dysfunction.
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Lets be honest. Baltimore has a high black population. We all know about murders and black populations. Wyoming is majority white. It isn't complicated. We all know the answer but many people are afraid to be honest about it!
If everybody in Baltimore moved to Wyoming, I'll bet their death rate would plummet. Would that make you happy?
Whose death rate? The thugs of Baltimore or the residents of Wyoming? Wyoming folks can shoot and shoot well and at long range. My money is on the Wyoming Folks not putting up with it.
Try this for a thought experiment: everyone in Wyoming moves to Baltimore, while everyone in Baltimore moves to Wyoming. I think you'd find the new Baltimoreans to be an unhappy lot, because I'm guessing that most Wyomingites don't much care for city living. But here's something else that would happen: the city would get cleaned up, fixed up, and would become a vastly safer place to be.
Meanwhile, the higher-class new Wyomingites would congregate in Laramie (because that's where the university is), and they'd be fine. Most of the rest of the new Wyomingites would congregate in Cheyenne (because all that wide-open empty space would unnerve them), which would quickly descend into Third World levels of crime and social dysfunction.
I have another theory.
The Wyomingites transplanted to Baltimore would spread out through the rest of Maryland. Those who once lived in Laramie and Cheyenne would live in Baltimore and Annapolis. The rest would go for the rural areas of Maryland, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia.
Baltimoreans transplanted to Wyoming, it would vary. Some of the elites would settle in Laramie. The elites would also settle in Jackson Hole. As for the rest settling in Cheyenne, this is what I see. I could see the middle class Baltimoreans settling there, seeing some relatively cheap quality housing. I could see the middle class going to Laramie as well. The blue collar workers would go to Casper, Gilette, and Rock Springs. Alot of oil and energy industry jobs. The underclass/drug addicts/criminals would spread out through the poorest parts of the state, particularly Wind River Indian Reservation.
It is forgotten that like many western states, there are Native American reservations. Native Americans would be part of those Wyomingites. Native Americans tend to be poorer than the rest of Wyoming's population. I suspect the poorest would settle in whatever is affordable.
Baltimore is a very crowded city where as Wyoming is a very wide open place. Wyoming has fewer people than Baltimore. Many people going to Wyoming would actually appreciate the wide open spaces. On the other hand, the elements won't be kind to the underclass. It won't stop them from committing crime. It will just make it harder to be there. Many will freeze to death in a Wyoming winter. Those who don't freeze might get killed by wild animals. Those who survive the wild animals and bitter cold will turn to crime to survive. And this there is another factor. There are people in Baltimore who will find Wyoming's wide open spaces a benefit for another reason: You can use a gun to defend yourself. More criminals would start getting shot to death.
Lets be honest. Baltimore has a high black population. We all know about murders and black populations. Wyoming is majority white. It isn't complicated. We all know the answer but many people are afraid to be honest about it!
While most of those doing the killing and BEING KILLED are Black, it's misleading. Most of the persons being killed live in the worst parts of Baltimore. Atlanta is a majority Black city and there isn't nearly as much carnage going on. It sounds like a matter of Baltimore's Black population having a very large underclass within it. Alot of drugs, alot of poverty, high unemployment rates, alot of gangs, a city that turned Rust Belt over the last few decades. You don't see high murder rates among middle-upper class Black communities. You see this in poor Black areas with high numbers of gang members. It isn't that people are afraid of the truth. It's that people have no understanding of nuances.
OMG, these threads are so dumb. You can't possibly compare largely rural, low density Wyoming to urban decayed, higher density Baltimore. Baltimore has a lot of impoverished areas with a much higher population density than Wyoming. Baltimore is also big in the drug trade, so a lot of the crime is related to competing interests in the drug trade. Stop with these stupid apples to oranges comparisons.
Baltimore also has something else going on. Wyoming has jobs for those who are willing to work in the oil, gas, and coal industries. Baltimore is a crowded city with some rust belt economics going on. It was a major factory city, and now there is alot of joblessness and shuttering factories.
Baltimore also has something else going on. Wyoming has jobs for those who are willing to work in the oil, gas, and coal industries. Baltimore is a crowded city with some rust belt economics going on. It was a major factory city, and now there is alot of joblessness and shuttering factories.
Very true. Baltimore is close to prosperous cities, but it’s main industries are rust belt industries and it has had rough time adapting. Thank you for bringing nuance to this discussion. These threads are so tiresome because posters are oversimplifying the interpretation of the stats and distorting the overall picture.
Very true. Baltimore is close to prosperous cities, but it’s main industries are rust belt industries and it has had rough time adapting. Thank you for bringing nuance to this discussion. These threads are so tiresome because posters are oversimplifying the interpretation of the stats and distorting the overall picture.
It was something no one was bringing up. Baltimore might have alot of prosperous areas around it, but Baltimore has alot in common with the rust belt. It was a city of shipbuilding, steel, and it also used to manufacture cars. The Chevrolet Astro was once manufactured in Baltimore. Alot of industries have left Baltimore. This is stuff many people don't understand about Baltimore. Baltimore used to rival cities like Detroit, Cleveland, and Buffalo in industrial output. The demise of such industries has hurt Baltimore severely. This is stuff many people just don't get. It doesn't help that the city government is very inept, to the point of some politicians being criminals themselves.
Ultimately the answer is race; everything else is just noise.
And we all know it.
No, it is culture. Focusing just on race is just noise.
And we all know it.
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