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Old 08-13-2020, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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What ?

You mean after 8 years of Obama and Biden the liberals couldn't achieve the liberal Utopia !!!

You want to blame Trump for that too !!!!
Democrats are going to wear out a lot of clown shoes going down that road !!!
You mean no one could get an agreement with the UAE which is a non-aggressor, fairly low end accomplishment and certainly not historic. What happened to the Israeli peace agreement with the Palestinians did you forget about that.

 
Old 08-13-2020, 11:02 AM
 
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I think we need to give Obama credit for this since right wingers insisted we give Bush "credit" for when Obama got Osama.

Seriously though, gotta give Trump's team credit. Seems like "progress" to me.
Thank you. You’re the first liberal on this thread to actually acknowledge this is a positive development.

(My next cruise will hit Dubai AND Haifa, both!)
 
Old 08-13-2020, 11:03 AM
 
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TRUMP: "We've negotiated full diplomatic relations between Israel and an Arab nation for the first time in a quarter-century and the third time in history."

TDS SUFFERERS: "Derrrp... ORANGE MAN STILL BAD because.... well, for some reason." *foam-enahnced drool slithers down chin*
Yup. I’m especially appalled when Jews (liberal ones, naturally) throw cold water on this.
 
Old 08-13-2020, 11:19 AM
 
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This is an agreement for some private companies from Israel and the UAE to work together on the Coronavirus.
I don’t see any connection to the current U.S. administration.

From The article:

But Mr. Netanyahu’s ebullient description was contradicted a few hours later when the Emirates issued a much more muted statement, announcing what it described as an agreement between two private Emirati companies and two Israeli companies to develop technology to fight the virus.

These are not peace talks.
True, this isn't a 'peace' agreement. It might not even be historic. So what Any time a middle eastern Muslim nation and Israel agree to normalize bilateral relations --- economic, tourism, telecommunications,etc. --- it's a step forward for anyone who wants a realistiic wider peace in that area.

Taking nothing away from Trump or Netanyahu, it takes guts for the UAE to enter this type of agreement.
 
Old 08-13-2020, 11:27 AM
 
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THIS IS A PEACE AGREEMENT !!!

The president, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Supreme Commander of the United Arab Emirates Sheikh Mohammed Bin Zayed released a joint statement Thursday, after the three spoke “and agreed to the full normalization of relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.” The statement said that the “diplomatic breakthrough” was at “the request of President Trump,” and that Israel will “suspend declaring sovereignty over areas outlined in the President’s Vision for Peace and focus its efforts now on expanding ties with other countries in the Arab and Muslim world.”

What its not is the declaration of some new war the democrats were claiming would happen with Trump in power !!!

So we have the is and the is not !!! Is that clear ?
 
Old 08-13-2020, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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THIS IS A PEACE AGREEMENT !!!

The president, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Supreme Commander of the United Arab Emirates Sheikh Mohammed Bin Zayed released a joint statement Thursday, after the three spoke “and agreed to the full normalization of relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.” The statement said that the “diplomatic breakthrough” was at “the request of President Trump,” and that Israel will “suspend declaring sovereignty over areas outlined in the President’s Vision for Peace and focus its efforts now on expanding ties with other countries in the Arab and Muslim world.”

What its not is the declaration of some new war the democrats were claiming would happen with Trump in power !!!

So we have the is and the is not !!! Is that clear ?

He has never given them the war they crave. Not with Russia. Not with Iran. Not with North Korea. Not with Syria.


Democrats yearn for the day when the president wins peace-prizes while drone-bombing and toppling leaders like the last guy.
 
Old 08-13-2020, 11:39 AM
 
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Has the UAE made any hostile moves against Israel in the last 55 or so years since they split away from Nasser led Egypt?

EDIT: Scratch that.

I was thinking of the United Arab Republic, which united Egypt and Syria under Nasser’s leadership.
 
Old 08-13-2020, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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I think we need to give Obama credit for this since right wingers insisted we give Bush "credit" for when Obama got Osama.
We did? That's news to me. I've always given Obama credit for that. It's one of the very, very few things that I give him positive credit for.
 
Old 08-13-2020, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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THIS IS A PEACE AGREEMENT !!!

The president, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Supreme Commander of the United Arab Emirates Sheikh Mohammed Bin Zayed released a joint statement Thursday, after the three spoke “and agreed to the full normalization of relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.” The statement said that the “diplomatic breakthrough” was at “the request of President Trump,” and that Israel will “suspend declaring sovereignty over areas outlined in the President’s Vision for Peace and focus its efforts now on expanding ties with other countries in the Arab and Muslim world.”

What its not is the declaration of some new war the democrats were claiming would happen with Trump in power !!!

So we have the is and the is not !!! Is that clear ?
No, it really is not a peace agreement. Israel and the UAE are simply moving forward in an attempt to normalize business relations. We can agree that it’s good news, but huge and historic...not so much.

None of the old problems have been resolved and that’s no fault of this administration, but let’s not overplay our hand.
 
Old 08-13-2020, 11:57 AM
 
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No, it really is not a peace agreement. Israel and the UAE are simply moving forward in an attempt to normalize business relations. We can agree that it’s good news, but huge and historic...not so much.

None of the old problems have been resolved and that’s no fault of this administration, but let’s not overplay our hand.
The three world leaders disagree with your assessment !!!

“This historic diplomatic breakthrough will advance peace in the Middle East region and is a testament to the bold diplomacy and vision of the three leaders and the courage of the United Arab Emirates and Israel to chart a new path that will unlock the great potential in the region,” the statement read. “All three countries face many common challenges and will mutually benefit from today’s historic achievement.”
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