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It's an attempt to restrict voting methods.
And it's a darned good idea. Those who cannot vote in person should get an absentee ballot.
An absentee ballot is a mail in ballot. It just is.
Be clear --- they still need to be mailed. And given the removal of blue postal boxes, elimination of sorting machines, and slashing postal resources.......this impedes the ability for our post office to handle a surge in absentee ballots as well.
Trump is most definitely campaigning against blue states using any kind of mail in balloting --- He does not want Democrats to vote.
And he has been clear on that.
It isn't about the integrity of the election process -- it is about suppressing votes against him.
Trump is a strong fiscal conservative whenever he is not being pushed to spend by the Congressional Democrats. He came to office cutting spending.
Trump has cut the US Post Office because they are inefficient and waste a lot of money.
Trump has never been against absentee ballots -- the requesting of ballots to be mailed to voters, and sent back by mail. What he is against is the MASS mailing of ballots to everyone.
It was very eye opening to me yesterday to hear US Attorney General Bill Barr's interview on Sean Hannity's Fox News program yesterday, when he said his ex-Californian neighbor is still being sent California voting ballots 21 years after moving out of California. Barr called the practice "reckless" with a very high potential for fraud, which is a fact.
This is the problem with mass mailing ballots. You lose all control over who gets them vs who should get them. The opportunity for fraud is rampant.
For my part, I don't really care. California will never go for Trump. If California want to mail ballots to all Californians and engage in massive fraud, it doesn't really matter to me if Trump loses by 4 million votes or 5. So all of these blue states that want to use mass ballot mailings are irrelevant in my opinion, since none of them are in play for Trump anyway.
It is like the state that all have changed their laws so that however the national popular vote goes, the state is bound for that candidate, rather than for the candidate that gets majority vote in their state. Since they are all blue states, it is irrelevant to Trump. Either Biden will win the popular vote having carried all these blue states anyway, or Trump will win the popular vote and be elected president, and these blue states will have to flip to Trump due to their silly laws. So Trump has nothing to lose and everything to gain by these blue states passing these silly laws.
An absentee ballot is a mail in ballot. It just is.
Be clear --- they still need to be mailed. And given the removal of blue postal boxes, elimination of sorting machines, and slashing postal resources.......this impedes the ability for our post office to handle a surge in absentee ballots as well.
Trump is most definitely campaigning against blue states using any kind of mail in balloting --- He does not want Democrats to vote.
And he has been clear on that.
It isn't about the integrity of the election process -- it is about suppressing votes against him.
Trump doe not oppose absentee ballots. He opposes mass ballot mailings.
Absentee ballots are specificlally requested by individuals. Mass ballot mailings go to everyone, including those who should not or cannot vote, such as non-residents who moved away from their old state, felons, illegal aliens, and dead people.
The corrupt Democrats want the ability to fill in those ballots so their corrupt Soros-bought Voter Registrars will count them.
All Trump is asking for is fairness. He hasn't gotten a single fair shake from the Left since he rode the escalator down Trump Tower, and he never will.
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YES. The right thing to do is to issue guidelines that states should follow to ensure the validity of their 'mail in' ballot procedures.
If Trump truly was concerned about the integrity of the election process using mail in ballots, he would be ensuring the integrity of that system.
Instead he just issues fear mongering about states that are traditional blue states using the mail in process and supports the red states.
Be specific about the guidelines, be specific about the issue.
To be fair, the Dems started this kerfluffle by screaming about voting by mass mailed mail-in ballots. Instead, why didn't the Dems push for people to request absentee ballots in the states that have not taken the time, years, to set themselves up for sending unrequested ballots to all voters? We would not be talking about this issue if they had done that, or, if they had, years ago, pressured states to be ready to send the unrequested ballots to all voters.
I don't see that locally. Still a lot of junk mail sent daily (except Sundays.) Lots of election mailers. I got my mail-in-ballot for the Arizona primaries and I sent it back for the following Monday (got it on a Saturday like normal.) Perhaps that is your locality. The only thing I notice is that our mail has to sit in the nearest office until the next delivery day before it is sent out to the homes.
Yes everything is at a district level in the postal service. However news is international and one guy's report out of Chicago, Detroit or Los Angeles about not receiving mail for a week is also true. But even with working 12 hours a day and Sundays in some districts and breaking every maximum hour rule in the process has shown we just can't pay overtime to power the way out of the problem since one guy can only walk or drive so far.
All the proposed changes would do, is to change SOP from wait for the last piece to cut off and go and work the last piece the next day. Because holding everything for the last piece results in paying entire units overtime as they waited on the previous unit to release their truck. a
For election day itself carriers out past the last dispatch truck taking collection mail back to the plant potentially would have a few ballots left over. But everyone is acting as if a special accommodation can not be made for election day as it always had been made for election days and Christmas eves before COVID staffing shortages made it impossible to service every mailbox 6 days a week. And for elections when it comes down to recounts most counties understand that even at 99% efficiency something might get lost or delayed and count the late ballots
The problem is every other day of the year when postal supervisors all manage as if handling cost is irrelevant those last few letters cost a lot. And the Inspector General sends out forces to try to find those last few letters because they don't care about cost either. I have lost count of the number of times a last piece from Amazon cost $40 in my penalty overtime salary alone to get out before 8PM in rush hour traffic. But being a political season folks thinks everything is about election day and not turning the entire service around to accept a cut off time as SOP.
President Trump Requests to personally utilize mail-in Ballots (which has been utilized on a wide scale since the Civil war) for the upcoming Florida Primary after spending weeks criticizing the practice for "potential voter fraud" (see posts #82 and #83 on page 9 of this thread).
Trump doe not oppose absentee ballots. He opposes mass ballot mailings.
Absentee ballots are specificlally requested by individuals. Mass ballot mailings go to everyone, including those who should not or cannot vote, such as non-residents who moved away from their old state, felons, illegal aliens, and dead people.
The corrupt Democrats want the ability to fill in those ballots so their corrupt Soros-bought Voter Registrars will count them.
All Trump is asking for is fairness. He hasn't gotten a single fair shake from the Left since he rode the escalator down Trump Tower, and he never will.
No Trump opposes Democrats voting by mail.
If Trump truly cared about the integrity of the election he would not make it an us vs. them (Republican vs. Democrat) issue.
He would clearly support all states implementing mail in procedures that would allow more Americans to vote duirng a pandemic and provide guidance to ensure the integrity of the process.
Instead he bashes, attacks, slashes Democrat states and creates doubt with regards to THEIR processes.
Oregon has used mail in voting for years. WIthout any election fraud.
They are now seeing blue boxes being removed in that state. Why now?
And Trump has created this myth that Democrats create massive voter fraud. Even his own commission could find nothing to prove that.
If Trump truly cared about the integrity of the election he would not make it an us vs. them (Republican vs. Democrat) issue.
He would clearly support all states implementing mail in procedures that would allow more Americans to vote duirng a pandemic and provide guidance to ensure the integrity of the process.
Instead he bashes, attacks, slashes Democrat states and creates doubt with regards to THEIR processes.
Oregon has used mail in voting for years. WIthout any election fraud.
They are now seeing blue boxes being removed in that state. Why now?
And Trump has created this myth that Democrats create massive voter fraud. Even his own commission could find nothing to prove that.
You buy it because you support Trump.
The Blue boxes are removed by the USPS because we count the number of letters in them and then determine if it was cost effective to add to a collection route's time to go to that location and pick up the box. It is not an election issue boxes have been disappearing for 20 years and with less time needed on collection routes many of those jobs have been cut
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If a state isn’t ready they shouldn’t do it.
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Is that what the Dems are saying, that "if a state isn't ready they shouldn't do it"? I must have missed them saying it. Please post a link of the Dem leaders saying that.
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