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I just saw Gen. Honore, now retired, and he was talking about how critical meds he needs are not arriving on time or at all since Trump has been attacking the post office. He is vulnerable yet has to go out to Walgreens today to get his meds. It is just unimaginable that an American president would deliberately sabotage the postal service that so many Americans rely on for their livelihood and even their lives so that he can interfere with voting to improve his odds of re-election. Yet here we are.
That happened because COVID. At 12 hours a day, so much for lack of overtime, parcels are on a 5 day backlog at most stations in my district. Except Amazon pieces which comes packed by them and still gets priority from the service. And many homes and businesses are lucky to get letter mail two days a week. It took a couple of people coming back from quarantine in my station to finally see all routes get at least their letters which were run through automation. But getting a couple back meant our last new hire was shifted to another station in worst shape than we are.
Now we had been told for weeks to try to pull what seems like prescription medication out of the equipment holding the delayed parcels but it is really an impossible situation as at sometime you have to stop and deliver what you have instead of working to prepare more and never going out to deliver. Maybe if a few more people finish their isolation someone can work overnight to work on the back load of pieces and distribute them to carrier routes. But we are not there yet in many big cities.
Claiming "Voting fraud" for mail in voting all of a sudden now, for a system that has been in place since the Civil war, is a way President Trump is saying "these are not the droids you are looking for"
Fraud is just one issue, the main issue is ballots are rejected by all the people who are not familiar with mail in voting.
Thirteen thousand out of 65,000 turned in were invalidated because there’s a missing signature, and there’s really no getting around the law on that.
But the other half are invalidated generally because of a missing postmark. The Patel camp and his lawyers argued in a lawsuit that that these are invalidations that have nothing to do with the voter, there were miscommunications between the U.S. Postal Service and the government, and these ballots didn’t get postmarked for a number of complicated reasons. They arrived and were just thrown out anyway, even though the voter did everything in their power to follow the rules, to try to get their vote counted.
Nearly six weeks later, two congressional races remain undecided, and officials are trading blame over the mishandling of tens of thousands of mail-in ballots.
We go ahead with this mail in ballot idea, and the problems in New York will only magnify.
In the City Council election, 16,747 vote-by-mail ballots were received, but only 13,557 votes were counted. More than 3,190 votes, 19% of the total ballots cast, were disqualified by the board of elections. Due to the pandemic, Paterson’s election was done through vote-by-mail. Community organizations, such as the city’s NAACP chapter, are calling for the entire election to be invalidated.
Mail-in ballots have long been acknowledged by voting experts to be more susceptible to fraud and irregularities than in-person voting. This has raised concerns from President Trump and other Republicans about the integrity of national elections in November, which are expected to include a dramatic increase in mail-in ballots. If Paterson is any guide, it ought to concern Democrats as well.
He should NOT interfere- if was honest, he would want to make sure the Postal services is running at its best... let the best man win... but--
If he was smart, Trump would not experiment with an untested massive mail-in voting. A presidential election is not the time to try out a new idea, especially when so many states experienced tens of thousands of discarded ballots during the 2020 primary. It would be a chaotic **** storm, making the 2000 Florida election look like child's play.
To try out an experiment, where all states send ballots to every name on the voter rolls, and then another untested experiment, everyone mails a ballot and the USPS tries to process them in a timely manner, will invite total chaos, and a month after the election, we still won't know who was elected as president. Expecting the USPS to process 150 million ballots in a couple days had never been tried before. Why experiment on a presidential election during a time of bitter political party partisanship?????
It's insane
One piece per citizen of machinable letters is a drop in the bucket and not a problem. That is what the system had long ago been optimized to do before the USPS started trying to sell itself as a parcel delivery business. With the ever greater percentage of mail being picked up from houses rather than blue mail boxes the carrier can cut the ballots out for special handling just like we used to do for colored Christmas cards and returned DVDs for NetFlix.
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And how much fraud will go on with mail in ballots. How many dead people, will be mailed a ballot. How many ballots will be sold.
Stimulas money has been sent to dead people......so why not voting ballots.
Yes. Near the end of June, almost 1.1 million checks were sent to dead people, either by direct deposit or mail. That number could be higher now since more checks went out since June.
If he was smart, Trump would not experiment with an untested massive mail-in voting. A presidential election is not the time to try out a new idea, especially when so many states experienced tens of thousands of discarded ballots during the 2020 primary. It would be a chaotic **** storm, making the 2000 Florida election look like child's play.
yea I'm from SFL I know about a the crayola that goes on . I remember listening to cops talk about how they found 2 vans in the everglades in 2012 full of "chads" ballots
That people will still be able to vote without the batch-mailing of ballots. As people have always done, they can personally request a ballot to do their mail-in voting, or, they go to the polls in person.
Which is what Trump appears to be attempting to derail.
In regards to voting by mail that has been going on since the Civil war in this country:
"2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history.
"It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote"
Is the President's issue with mail in voting (which has been around since the civil war) truly and honestly an issue with fraud, or something more sinister?
"They want $25 billion for the post office. Now, they need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots. Now, in the meantime, they aren't getting there. But if they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail-in voting because they're not equipped to have it"
There are many, many, sources on this, so if you don't like this one, just 'google' Trump USPS. These are his words, quoted. Not some media spin.
The facts include that Zero tax dollars used. The Postal Service receives NO tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products and services to fund its operations. So let's just put that propaganda lie to the side. https://facts.usps.com/top-facts/
Whether you are for or against the legal right to mail-in voting. Whether you believe the unsubstantiated lied that voting fraud is going to happen if we don't abolish this right. Can we all agree that his admitted goal of restricting voting rights is not aligned with American values or the values of our founding fathers?
For those that support Trump, what is your justification for him abolishing a HUGELY successful part of our government, just so he can restrict votes to win an election.
And for those who wish to answer another question, what is a reasonable justification for him appointing a Postmaster who is heavily invested in the competition of the organization he is supposed to lead? How is that not a conflict of interst?
Please keep your response civil. You can have strong opinions without calling names. If you think I'm wrong in what I said, let's here a decent explanation of why (not just "lefties" or "socialism"). The USPS is a vital service to Americans, it does not cost our tax-payers, and it is being used to suppress voting. How am I wrong, or how is that OK.
respectful disagreement to the front of the line...
Why don't you quit being a pansy and vote for Biden at the voting booth? If getting rid of him means so much to you and you're so confident Biden is going to win, do it.
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