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Old 08-15-2020, 09:54 AM
 
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See above post. New Trier teachers salaries.
My district’s average teacher salary is $71k, which is $15k higher than the county south of us, but that’s mostly because we have an unusually high number of stepped out teachers due to age and education level. The average salary has been trending down due to retirement over the past few years. Eighty percent of our teachers hold advanced degrees, including a handful of doctorates. We are not by any means typical.
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Old 08-15-2020, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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"None of those jobs you reference are anything like being stuck with 25 kids in a room all day built for 15."

And you know this about every single public school in the country from kindergarten through high school?

WOW! You must do a LOT of traveling.

If YOUR local schools are like this, why do you keep voting for the SAME politicians over and over?

Or if it is this important to you, MOVE!
100,000 +/- public schools in the US.
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Old 08-15-2020, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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In my home state teachers are complaining they don’t want to re-open schools. scared they might catch the big bad bogeyman virus. Awwwwhhh poor babies. First of all there’s little risk of catching the virus from children according to medical experts. So that excuse is total “BS”. And btw I still have to go work and millions of others like me. So If we can go to work so can you. so get off your lazy A$$ drinking pina coladas on the beach and do your job.....you bums!!!

I know right, I mean, they got into teaching to educate little morons, and I'm sure that their teaching classes included a discussion on the fact that they might get seriously ill, die, or infect one of their loved ones. And then it was right there in the contract, right next to the possibility that a gun loving psychopath may come into the school and start killing people and that feral kids might punch them in the head. It's part of the job, those lazy bums should toughen up and get with the new program. It's such a lucrative and rewarding career I really can't understand why anyone wouldn't jump at the chance to be a teacher.
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Old 08-15-2020, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Tell that to the policemen, EMT's fireman, trash collectors, etc. who STILL go to work every day.
None of the above are confined for hours in close quarters with other people. They don’t have protracted contact.

Trash collectors, public and private, tend not to have any human contact during their shift and don’t touch garbage.
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Old 08-15-2020, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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If the teachers don’t wanna go back to school, ain’t nothing stopping them from the door.

There will be 10 newly unemployed just waiting for each position.

10 newly unqualified unemployed.
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Old 08-15-2020, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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People keep throwing these examples up there but this is an "alternative school" -- not even what we are talking about here.

Most "teachers" work for the state and get paid like there is no tomorrow and DON"T work most of the time.. leave work at 3 and don't work in the summer.

That is what we are talking about OBVIOUSLY.
Most teachers are employed by a local government, a school district, not the state.

Compensation, regardless of profession, is highly variable within any given state.

Median national salary is $58,000, with $39,000 on the low end and $79,000 on the high end.
The cost of living is highly variable state to state and within state.
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Old 08-15-2020, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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One of my friends was a teacher. (Now retired.) She was home by 4 pm every day, and had summers off. Went to Europe almost every summer, which she deducted as research for her history class. Earned more than $100,000.

I have no idea what her pension is, but she just renovated her kitchen at the cost of $50,000 and had a trip to Spain and Portugal scheduled for July (cancelled due to the virus.)

Cry me a river.
Many in my extended family are educators both at the high school and college levels. They have good incomes, many have second summer homes at the beach, take multiple vacations per year and drive nice vehicles. So it's not poverty level in many cases. They are all far left, Progressive Democrats. We never discuss politics.
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Old 08-15-2020, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I would be happy to homeschool if I get a refund on my property taxes. I bet lot of others in my area would, too.
51 million +/- attend public school in the US.

No idea the percentage of families who have the skills, inclination and time to teach their children, K-12.

Households with no children pay the same property tax as a household with 6 school- age children, all else being equal.

The first public school in the US opened in 1635. The cost of educating the masses is socialized in the developed world.
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Old 08-15-2020, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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^^ This. They are probably 99% left and use that influence starting in pre-school. In my local elementary there are zero male teachers. What chance do boys have.
Really? It's interesting that no one complained about that fact in the 50's and early 60's when pretty much all the the elementary and even middle school teachers were female. I don't think anyone questioned whether the boys would turn out less masculine or lacked recognition in their classes then, did they?
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Old 08-15-2020, 10:23 AM
 
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Really? It's interesting that no one complained about that fact in the 50's and early 60's when pretty much all the the elementary and even middle school teachers were female. I don't think anyone questioned whether the boys would turn out less masculine or lacked recognition in their classes then, did they?
Yep. When my mother was a teenager, a young lady had essentially two choices: Future Nurses of America or Future Teachers of America. For those who are old enough for this to be meaningful, I inherited her series of Cherry Ames novels. Teachers were almost universally female, especially in elementary school.
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