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Old 08-14-2020, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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I seriously doubt that. The GOP will have to get lost in the woods for a while because right now their share of the electorate is shrinking. Trump has done them no favors. 2018 was a bellwether for that.

I think if they moderated, actually believed in fiscal conservatism and democracy home and abroad they could re-right the ship.

No offense- but the ultra left liberal side of the shop espousing free healthcare, free education and excessive taxation to get there is not going to cut it in this country or economy. That's why Biden/Harris represent a left of center ticket- they moderated and knew it could carry the election. Watch Harris move closer to center in a few weeks. It'll be like a watch you can set time to.
I keep hearing people talk about how bad it was for republicans in 2018, yet they seem to forget about 2010.
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:28 PM
 
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You are competing with the OP for most ridiculous claim in this thread.
That's because you don't know the amount of wealth out here, which is staggering. That's fine. Ignorance is bliss. There are people living in rural red states who think $9M is a lot of money. Heck, they probably think $5M is a lot of money. It's not.

I'm in that bracket and I am perfectly middle class out here.

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Old 08-14-2020, 12:29 PM
 
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We heard that line in 2008 when Republicans were afraid of an African American becoming president. Yes, it has been 12 years so there's a good chance there're fools that have forgotten. We recovered from the recession. We certainly weren't living in tents under the freeway. We didn't lose any of our guns. The economy did great. Unemployment dropped steadily under Obama and into Trump's early years. Statues of Karl Marx weren't erected in the country.

If there is any ebb and flow of politics in this country, it is the stupidity that grips us every 8 years. Democrats fix Republican messes for 8 years, so we give Republicans another try. Maybe this time, it will only take 4 years to recognize the problem and stop it.
Obama is not an African-American. He is a half black/half white American. I suggest you stop stereotyping all Republicans. They opposed him just as they opposed Bill Clinton and every other Democrat candidate regardless of their skin color/race. It's the Democrat policies that turn Republicans off.
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Wait until Gen Z becomes active in politics, history will look at Barack as a conservative.
Can't wait until they take over and these old hard nose geezers go to pasture
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:32 PM
 
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I used to be a liberal before I became an independent but still mostly voted for Democrats. Not this time and probably never again.
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Even to get elected, he had to play the "I am you, I'm for the common man" BS when it clearly has never been true but people bought it and he has shown his true colors the last 4 years of crooked/ Corporate Type corruption all the 1 percent do. . Every generation that is being created is leaning further left and as the income gap continues it only pushes future generations even further to the left..

There isn't enough Millionaires/Billionaires/Corporate executives to stop the swing left
Well, if he's the last one let's make sure he gets in his full 8 years.
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I think all parties should have a chance, but for god's sake TERM LIMITS on all government lawmakers !!!
Yes….


no politician (left or right) should be in either house of congress for 30 or 40 years


re-align the terms to 4 years (increase HoR to 4yrs and decrease Senate to 4yrs) then make it no more than 3 terms for all 3 houses...… (Obviously a person could end up doing 36 years if they did 12 HoR, 12 HoS, and 12 WH...since that would be an obvious career path) )
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:40 PM
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Yes….


no politician (left or right) should be in either house of congress for 30 or 40 years


re-align the terms to 4 years (increase HoR to 4yrs and decrease Senate to 4yrs) then make it no more than 3 terms for all 3 houses...… (Obviously a person could end up doing 36 years if they did 12 HoR, 12 HoS, and 12 WH...since that would be an obvious career path) )
Is there anybody who doesn't think we would be better off if both McConnell and Pelosi were retired?
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Is there anybody who doesn't think we would be better off if both McConnell and Pelosi were retired?


IMO they and waters, biden etc (all the ones who have been in their seats for 30+yrs should all be retired
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:51 PM
 
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I believe we will see a blue wave. I will be surprised if the republican party survives at all. I believe that most Americans are fed up with any political group placing themselves above the majority. Americans are tired of serving the oligarchy that dominates the US who use people as debt slaves.
It will be nice to America return to a position where everyone has a fair shot at success.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." Don't get fooled again vote for Joe.
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