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Old 08-14-2020, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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We were having a political discussion about voting demographics on another thread and the topic of the dying out of old white men as a dominant demographic voting group was being discussed.

The discussion reminded me of a very interesting interactive graphic I saw previously. Posted below is a link to an interactive map that shows the source nations for immigrants to America from 1820 to present. The complete shift following the Immigration Act of 1965 is striking and dramatic.

From 1820 to 1965, European nations dominate US immigration. After 1965, non-European nations completely dominate US immigration, as if somebody just flipped a switch.

It is a compelling graphic. For example, Mexican immigration does not even appear until 1910, then by 1963 it is the top spot and never yields. Mexico stays the top donor nation from 1963 to present.

This map explains a lot about our nation's demographic changes.

Another amazing feature is how the map just dies during the Great Depression. There were no jobs here for immigrants. I am sure they wanted to come here but we had no way to employ them with unemployment already so high. The map just comes to a screaching halt until well after WWII.

Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants are almost non-existent until 1970/75, and then BOOM, it is a flood. Just interesting to note what seems an almost immediate change in the map.

In addition to showing the source countries of immigrants by year, the lower left shows the top 3 nations by year. You can also pause the map at any given year and and you can move the slider to any given year for display. The information comes fast and gets hard to follow with so many nations. I find that pausing on a regular basis is really helpful to view all the different nations contributing in a given year. Running it without ever pausing it overwhelms me.

Just an interesting and informative graphic for anyone who has never seen it. It does a remarkable job of demonstrating immigration over time as clearly as it can be shown.

Here's Everyone Who's Immigrated to the U.S. Since 1820 - Metrocosm

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Old 08-14-2020, 10:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Igor Blevin View Post
We were having a political discussion about voting demographics on another thread and the topic of the dying out of old white men as a dominant demographic voting group was being discussed.

The discussion reminded me of a very interesting interactive graphic I saw previously. Posted below is a link to an interactive map that shows the source nations for immigrants to America from 1820 to present. The complete shift following the Immigration Act of 1965 is striking and dramatic.

From 1820 to 1965, European nations dominate US immigration. After 1965, non-European nations completely dominate US immigration, as if somebody just flipped a switch. It is a compelling graphic. For example, Mexico is not even in the top 3 until 1920. Mexico moves to the #1 spot in 1963 and never gives it up right to the present day.

This map explains a lot about our nation's demographic changes.

Another amazing feature is how the map just dies during the Great Depression. There were no jobs here for immigrants. I am sure they wanted to come here but we had no way to employ them with unemployment already so high. The map just comes to a screaching halt until well after WWII.

Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants are almost non-existent until 1970/75, and then BOOM, it is a flood. Just interesting to note what seems an almost immediate change in the map.

In addition to showing the source countries of immigrants by year, the lower left shows the top 3 nations by year. You can also pause the map at any given year and and you can move the slider to any given year for display. The information comes fast and gets hard to follow with so many nations. I find that pausing on a regular basis is really helpful to view all the different nations contributing in a given year. Running it without ever pausing it overwhelms me.

Just an interesting and informative graphic for anyone who has never seen it. It does a remarkable job of demonstrating immigration over time as clearly as it can be shown.

Here's Everyone Who's Immigrated to the U.S. Since 1820 - Metrocosm
The map doesn't explain EVERYTHING. The Immigration Act of 1965 might have played a big role. However, there is something else to consider. Mexico was the 3rd largest source of immigrants during the 1950s, long before the Immigration Act of 1965. The Bracero Program had been going on since the 1940s, specifically August 4, 1942.

While Mexico was the #1 country immigrants were coming from during the 1960s, Canada and the UK were 2nd and 3rd. Other countries included Germany, Poland, and Italy.

Something else. During the 1960s and 70s, the economies of several western European countries (Germany, France, etc) were coming out of their own post-war malaises and becoming powerhouses of their own. More Europeans decided to stay. Italy had been a huge source of immigration to the USA. Canada and Australia would compete with the USA for those Italian immigrants, as would Germany and the UK.

During the 60s and 70s, Cuba's Communist regime would result in many Cubans fleeing to America.

As the Eastern bloc fell, many immigrants from eastern Europe came here during the 1990s. There is nothing stopping Europeans from coming. Many choose to stay in their own countries, or go to other countries. And now, race isn't a qualifier for coming here.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 10:28 AM
 
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Actually we're still pretty great. It just seems that sinister forces are trying to divide us and bring us down. Trump for the win'20
I was talking in a historical sense. And this country has always been divided, and not always from sinister forces.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Igor Blevin View Post
We were having a political discussion about voting demographics on another thread and the topic of the dying out of old white men as a dominant demographic voting group was being discussed.

The discussion reminded me of a very interesting interactive graphic I saw previously. Posted below is a link to an interactive map that shows the source nations for immigrants to America from 1820 to present. The complete shift following the Immigration Act of 1965 is striking and dramatic.

From 1820 to 1965, European nations dominate US immigration. After 1965, non-European nations completely dominate US immigration, as if somebody just flipped a switch.

It is a compelling graphic. For example, Mexican immigration does not even appear until 1910, then by 1963 it is the top spot and never yields. Mexico stays the top donor nation from 1963 to present.

This map explains a lot about our nation's demographic changes.

Another amazing feature is how the map just dies during the Great Depression. There were no jobs here for immigrants. I am sure they wanted to come here but we had no way to employ them with unemployment already so high. The map just comes to a screaching halt until well after WWII.

Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants are almost non-existent until 1970/75, and then BOOM, it is a flood. Just interesting to note what seems an almost immediate change in the map.

In addition to showing the source countries of immigrants by year, the lower left shows the top 3 nations by year. You can also pause the map at any given year and and you can move the slider to any given year for display. The information comes fast and gets hard to follow with so many nations. I find that pausing on a regular basis is really helpful to view all the different nations contributing in a given year. Running it without ever pausing it overwhelms me.

Just an interesting and informative graphic for anyone who has never seen it. It does a remarkable job of demonstrating immigration over time as clearly as it can be shown.

Here's Everyone Who's Immigrated to the U.S. Since 1820 - Metrocosm
I had a little bit of trouble keeping up with all the dots, but found the little thing at the bottom listing the top three countries with citizens emigrating to the US listed in order of number of people. I wouldn't have thought Canada was on top for so many years. Just didn't really cross my radar that apparently for decades, Canada was the top country for US immigration.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 10:49 AM
 
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I had a little bit of trouble keeping up with all the dots, but found the little thing at the bottom listing the top three countries with citizens emigrating to the US listed in order of number of people. I wouldn't have thought Canada was on top for so many years. Just didn't really cross my radar that apparently for decades, Canada was the top country for US immigration.
I'm willing to be that a considerable number of Canadian immigrants came from Quebec, New Brunswick, and eastern Ontario, and were settling in New England and the Great Lakes region.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I had a little bit of trouble keeping up with all the dots, but found the little thing at the bottom listing the top three countries with citizens emigrating to the US listed in order of number of people. I wouldn't have thought Canada was on top for so many years. Just didn't really cross my radar that apparently for decades, Canada was the top country for US immigration.
It is hard to keep up with influx from so many countries on the map. I find that if I pause it every 5 years 1970... 1975... 1980, then I can actually look at all the highlighted donor nations. The map is set up so that high rates of inflation use very opaque highlight while low rates use a very transpartent highlight for donor countries. So by pausing every 5 years and then examining all the highlighted nations, it really shows you who came from where and when. I had no clue that Hungary was in the top 3 ever.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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The map doesn't explain EVERYTHING. The Immigration Act of 1965 might have played a big role. However, there is something else to consider. Mexico was the 3rd largest source of immigrants during the 1950s, long before the Immigration Act of 1965. The Bracero Program had been going on since the 1940s, specifically August 4, 1942.

While Mexico was the #1 country immigrants were coming from during the 1960s, Canada and the UK were 2nd and 3rd. Other countries included Germany, Poland, and Italy.

Something else. During the 1960s and 70s, the economies of several western European countries (Germany, France, etc) were coming out of their own post-war malaises and becoming powerhouses of their own. More Europeans decided to stay. Italy had been a huge source of immigration to the USA. Canada and Australia would compete with the USA for those Italian immigrants, as would Germany and the UK.

During the 60s and 70s, Cuba's Communist regime would result in many Cubans fleeing to America.

As the Eastern bloc fell, many immigrants from eastern Europe came here during the 1990s. There is nothing stopping Europeans from coming. Many choose to stay in their own countries, or go to other countries. And now, race isn't a qualifier for coming here.
The following graphic (link to website below) seems to indicate that the Bracero program was a guest worker program and that immigration paled compared to Mexican immigration post 1965.


https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic...-perhaps-less/

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Old 08-14-2020, 11:00 AM
 
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Interesting... gives us a perspective of where our country's immigrants have come from during different time periods, and all those immigrants have given us a better country
 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I had a little bit of trouble keeping up with all the dots, but found the little thing at the bottom listing the top three countries with citizens emigrating to the US listed in order of number of people. I wouldn't have thought Canada was on top for so many years. Just didn't really cross my radar that apparently for decades, Canada was the top country for US immigration.
Canada was a stepping stone for many many immigrants coming to the US. My grandfather came here from Newfoundland in 1918. Both of my great grandmothers came from Quebec around 1910. The textile factories of New Hampshire and Maine were all filled with French Canadians who poured down from Quebec.

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Old 08-14-2020, 11:08 AM
 
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Forces behind the scene changing the great nation. Is it any wonder the greatness is waning?
Yes. Those dang Pilgrims and those dang Puritans.
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